Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 14:42     Subject: Re:WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
From what I can find it seems Deilia Butler is around 55. If she plead guilty 12 years ago that would make her 43. Plenty years of adult life experience!
Sorry, I hope she has kicked her addiction, but she should have known better at age 43 and in my opinion she has no business working in any school system period. Certified or not.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 14:31     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe it took them this damn long to figure this out. WTF, Fairfax?


If you read the article, you'd see that she applied in 2006 when applications were done on paper. It was human error that it was overlooked. In 2009, the system switched over to an online system where if an applicant checks "yes" the process stops. They had no reason to look for this error until she brought it up. Once she brought it up, they went back and from what I read, looked through every one of the 19,000 paper applications from 1996-2009. That's is where it came up that 6 other employees had also checked yes on paper.


Actually there is still a paper application in addition to electronic. I was hired with FCPS in 2008 and used an electronic and a paper application. I was hired with a felony on my background with the electronic system


Were you hired as a teacher?


Yes
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 14:16     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the teacher, honestly.

She went to prison, then went to earn a teaching certificate in Virginia. (Aside-if its not legal for felons to teach in school, then why did they credential her to teach in VA?)



Good point. I think each case needs to be reviewed independently because a blanket rule does not fit every situation. The age of offense, length of time since offense, as well as, the actual offense needs to be considered. I am all for rehabilitation but not in our school system for an adult convicted of drug charges, weapons or anyone convicted of child sex offenses. For instance a teenager or young college student who made a one time mistake, stole something, small drugs charge, got in a fight, drove on a suspended license, or the like, should not be punished for the rest of their life. But an adult should know better and if convicted must pay the consequences of their actions even if it means crappy jobs. They definitely should not be in the school system, honest on app. or not.


OP...meant to say the age at time of offense
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 13:58     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe it took them this damn long to figure this out. WTF, Fairfax?


If you read the article, you'd see that she applied in 2006 when applications were done on paper. It was human error that it was overlooked. In 2009, the system switched over to an online system where if an applicant checks "yes" the process stops. They had no reason to look for this error until she brought it up. Once she brought it up, they went back and from what I read, looked through every one of the 19,000 paper applications from 1996-2009. That's is where it came up that 6 other employees had also checked yes on paper.


Actually there is still a paper application in addition to electronic. I was hired with FCPS in 2008 and used an electronic and a paper application. I was hired with a felony on my background with the electronic system


Were you hired as a teacher?
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 13:55     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a single mom my livelihood was yanked away from me at a moments notice. Also now concerned about impact this will have on my kids because they don't know reason I left FCPS. in addition I am an active volunteer in my church and community and now terrified what this is going to do to my reputation as well as my current job





Going to church does not make one a good, honest person.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 13:52     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:She pled guilty twelve years ago and was honest on her application


Anyone know old was she when she was convicted?
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 13:48     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:As a single mom my livelihood was yanked away from me at a moments notice. Also now concerned about impact this will have on my kids because they don't know reason I left FCPS. in addition I am an active volunteer in my church and community and now terrified what this is going to do to my reputation as well as my current job



Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 13:46     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for the teacher, honestly.

She went to prison, then went to earn a teaching certificate in Virginia. (Aside-if its not legal for felons to teach in school, then why did they credential her to teach in VA?)



Good point. I think each case needs to be reviewed independently because a blanket rule does not fit every situation. The age of offense, length of time since offense, as well as, the actual offense needs to be considered. I am all for rehabilitation but not in our school system for an adult convicted of drug charges, weapons or anyone convicted of child sex offenses. For instance a teenager or young college student who made a one time mistake, stole something, small drugs charge, got in a fight, drove on a suspended license, or the like, should not be punished for the rest of their life. But an adult should know better and if convicted must pay the consequences of their actions even if it means crappy jobs. They definitely should not be in the school system, honest on app. or not.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 13:18     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
I feel bad for the teacher, honestly.

She went to prison, then went to earn a teaching certificate in Virginia. (Aside-if its not legal for felons to teach in school, then why did they credential her to teach in VA?)

Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 12:18     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
I say if they have no crimes against children and no further criminal records, let them be. They paid for their crimes and have moved on to be productive citizens.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 11:48     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was convited for drug trafficing.....I don't care how good a job she was doing she should not be in the public school system.


What kind of jobs do you think she deserve? Where?


I don't know and I don't care. I didn't realize that the public school system in Fairfax is the only place former drug dealers could get a job. We are running a school system not a charity.

She made poor choices in life (she was convicted of drug trafficing) I am sure she can find a job somewhere else that does not involve the public school system.

The employee with the credit card issue might be a different story but the drug conviction is just mind blowing.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 11:19     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe it took them this damn long to figure this out. WTF, Fairfax?


If you read the article, you'd see that she applied in 2006 when applications were done on paper. It was human error that it was overlooked. In 2009, the system switched over to an online system where if an applicant checks "yes" the process stops. They had no reason to look for this error until she brought it up. Once she brought it up, they went back and from what I read, looked through every one of the 19,000 paper applications from 1996-2009. That's is where it came up that 6 other employees had also checked yes on paper.


Actually there is still a paper application in addition to electronic. I was hired with FCPS in 2008 and used an electronic and a paper application. I was hired with a felony on my background with the electronic system
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 11:18     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about a special education teacher who took two hundred dollars off a credit card twelve years ago? She had been told by her husband at the. that she had permission. She still pled guilty so her husband would not lose his job. Then went to college as a single mom and got two masters degree. In addition had her background pardoned which is the most forgiveness VA offers. She disclosed this information to FCPS but was removed from her class room


She pled guilty to a felony?


Yes pled guilty twelve years ago for taking 200 dollars. Had it been 199.99 it would have been a misdemeanor. She also had to go before the department of education in VA to get her teaching license on two different occasions. The representatives of the board unanimously voted for her to get her license.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 11:15     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe it took them this damn long to figure this out. WTF, Fairfax?


If you read the article, you'd see that she applied in 2006 when applications were done on paper. It was human error that it was overlooked. In 2009, the system switched over to an online system where if an applicant checks "yes" the process stops. They had no reason to look for this error until she brought it up. Once she brought it up, they went back and from what I read, looked through every one of the 19,000 paper applications from 1996-2009. That's is where it came up that 6 other employees had also checked yes on paper.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2014 11:14     Subject: WaPo: FCPS let felons slip through the cracks and into the ranks
She pled guilty twelve years ago and was honest on her application