Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 14:30     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That someone is citing AA as "ethical" either shows amazing comedic brilliance or insane cluelessness. Either way thanks for the chuckle.


Agree.


Can you cite a few things the corporation has done that are notably unethical? Beyond the norm for a national company, I mean.

Not talking about see thru underpants or anything else that is more properly termed "tasteless" or "provacative."

. I mean ethics, business ethics. Does AA stand out in any ethical way from others in business?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 12:33     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you love that they are owned by the Gap brand, who has one of the worst reputations for sweatshop abuses in the industry? Your clothes from there come cheap for a reason.


Can you please list some brands that are made exclusively by people who are paid well above the poverty line for their country; that are affordable enough for a middle class person; and which offer an entire line of products (so, not the random one-off cute scarf at the whole foods checkout line)?

I have yet to locate this purveyor in the untied states but I'm open to suggestion. Finding one reasonably priced ($70) skirt at Catch Can doesn't cut it because I can't wear that to court every day, looking like Stevie Nicks.

You don't know who that is, do you? Because you're 20 yrs old.


Everything at American Apparel is made by people who are paid a living wage working in good working conditions. It may not be a place where you can find everything you need to wear to court, but neither is Old Navy, which is the subject of this thread. You can also check out Everlane for affordable (not super-cheap) basics made ethically.


Beware, though, they'll laugh you out of the store unless you have the full bush showing.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 11:56     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:That someone is citing AA as "ethical" either shows amazing comedic brilliance or insane cluelessness. Either way thanks for the chuckle.


Agree.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2014 09:56     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
That someone is citing AA as "ethical" either shows amazing comedic brilliance or insane cluelessness. Either way thanks for the chuckle.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2014 22:39     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
American Apparel and H&M are crap for twenty-somethings. I can't imagine anything you could buy there that would be appropriate for court, or at least for a person who works at a court.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2014 15:22     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
I bought three dresses last year that I love, fit-and-flare ponte ones. I also stocked up on winter sweat pants for me and DH, long sleeved shirts for hanging out and sleeping, sweatshirts and fleece tops and jackets. Loved them all.

They have petite that fits me very well. Love their clothes for kids as well. Their boy stuff is very cute.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2014 21:55     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
I just bought 2 long ON maxi drsses that shrunk horribly on first wash. So I only got to wear them once.

Such cheap garbage. I won't go back.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2014 07:54     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
I just bought a couple ON sweaters. $10 a piece. They look the same as any sweater you'd buy at any other retail store. Quality sucks everywhere. I spend more on pants/jeans, and I like Boden a lot for mainstays like coats. l have no idea about Boden's corporate philosophy.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 21:33     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
I'm a fan of their kids clothes.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 21:27     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
I like old navy's jeans
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 21:24     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still think that their clothes look insanely cheap. Though so do Loft clothes. Gap is beyond terrible.


My DH calls it 'hobo wear'.


So your husband's gay then?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 20:04     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you love that they are owned by the Gap brand, who has one of the worst reputations for sweatshop abuses in the industry? Your clothes from there come cheap for a reason.


Can you please list some brands that are made exclusively by people who are paid well above the poverty line for their country; that are affordable enough for a middle class person; and which offer an entire line of products (so, not the random one-off cute scarf at the whole foods checkout line)?

I have yet to locate this purveyor in the untied states but I'm open to suggestion. Finding one reasonably priced ($70) skirt at Catch Can doesn't cut it because I can't wear that to court every day, looking like Stevie Nicks.

You don't know who that is, do you? Because you're 20 yrs old.


Everything at American Apparel is made by people who are paid a living wage working in good working conditions. It may not be a place where you can find everything you need to wear to court, but neither is Old Navy, which is the subject of this thread. You can also check out Everlane for affordable (not super-cheap) basics made ethically.


I've heard very mixed things about the working conditions at AA. And supporting Dov Charney? Um...
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 18:58     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you love that they are owned by the Gap brand, who has one of the worst reputations for sweatshop abuses in the industry? Your clothes from there come cheap for a reason.


Can you please list some brands that are made exclusively by people who are paid well above the poverty line for their country; that are affordable enough for a middle class person; and which offer an entire line of products (so, not the random one-off cute scarf at the whole foods checkout line)?

I have yet to locate this purveyor in the untied states but I'm open to suggestion. Finding one reasonably priced ($70) skirt at Catch Can doesn't cut it because I can't wear that to court every day, looking like Stevie Nicks.

You don't know who that is, do you? Because you're 20 yrs old.



13:01 again. H&M is another brand that has a far superior approach to corporate ethics than Gap, and you can get clothes that you can wear to court there every day. And at H&M you can choose to dress like Stevie Nicks or not. Here's a link to H&M's ethics policy:
http://about.hm.com/en/About/Sustainability/Commitments/Be-Ethical.html

I believe that if we make an effort to support companies that are improving their labor practices, more companies will prioritize this issue.



H&M is ethical?!?! Seriously? Maybe they treat workers better but the toxic levels in some clothes is quite dangerous. Likely most clothes from China have issues which is probably 90% of clothes. See article:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/greenpeace-finds-toxic-chemicals-in-top-clothing-brands-60799.html


Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 17:03     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
Anonymous wrote:I still think that their clothes look insanely cheap. Though so do Loft clothes. Gap is beyond terrible.


My DH calls it 'hobo wear'.

I haven't been in ages either. Gap outlet is the same way sometimes.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2014 15:18     Subject: I have become an old navy fan!
ON still seems cheap and terrible, and the fit is usually weird.