No, I'm not. I'm 8:10 and 10:37 from this morning.

By the way, are you familiar with the concept of sample selection? You mention that in your years of professional experience dealing with children around the city, the ONES YOU SEE behave the same. I assume you don't see a random selection of children, but children who all meet some criteria. Stands to reason they'd have many similarities while simultaneously saying NOTHING about children you don't see through your non-random professional sampling.

Think more deeply about the limits of your knowledge/experience before making leaps about other people.

And, again, I'm not even who you're calling out.

Anonymous wrote:You're conceding my point. Maybe the scoffing parents aren't racists but, rather, expressing this disapproval with an institution/climate/whatever that is relatively more permissive of certain behaviors. Why did you not consider that as a possibility instead of defaulting to racial animus as your preferred explanation.

Maybe it's just me, but I try really hard to ascribe intentions to racism/sexism/etc when other explanations are possible.

You are obviously 10:53 and trying to defend yourself. Give it a rest.

Anonymous wrote:You're conceding my point. Maybe the scoffing parents aren't racists but, rather, expressing this disapproval with an institution/climate/whatever that is relatively more permissive of certain behaviors. Why did you not consider that as a possibility instead of defaulting to racial animus as your preferred explanation.

Maybe it's just me, but I try really hard to ascribe intentions to racism/sexism/etc when other explanations are possible.

You can believe whatever you want to believe about people's intentions, and I will believe mine. I work with kids of all races, all over the city. And I see how they behave. And I see how Hearst and Hardy kids behave. And it is no different from other NW DC schools. So when I hear people complain about their behavior, yes, I will make my own judgement on those opinions. You are welcome to your own opinions but you are not going to change my perspective based on years of professional experience and parenting.

You're conceding my point. Maybe the scoffing parents aren't racists but, rather, expressing this disapproval with an institution/climate/whatever that is relatively more permissive of certain behaviors. Why did you not consider that as a possibility instead of defaulting to racial animus as your preferred explanation.

Maybe it's just me, but I try really hard to ascribe intentions to racism/sexism/etc when other explanations are possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

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Why so defie site. The poster made and observation and then chose differently for her child. Your snarky response basically telling her you are glad she isn't at Hardy makes me think YOU have concerns as well about behavior but maybe didn't get into the charter you wanted.

I suspect it has nothing to do with that - if the poster had wanted to go to a charter instead of Hardy, they would have gone to a charter.

As a Hardy parent, I can tell you there is a lot of sensitivity to the way Hardy students are judged based on their behavior out of school. I've seen it firsthand - an exuberant group of AA Hardy students outside of school is judged as being a bunch of thugs; a similarly exuberant group of white students from a different school is viewed completely differently - as a happy group of non-threatening middle schoolers. It happens again and again.

So very true. My kids are at Hearst and I hear that comment often from local parents who bring their kids to our playground and say they would never send their kids to the school because of the behavior they observe on the playground. I truly wonder how many groups of elementary schools kids they've observed as a comparison. I suspect it's not the "behavior" of the kids that bothers them, as much as they don't want to admit it to themselves.

You suspect, do you? Jesus, can we please place some breaks on the wild insinuations.

Bad parenting is not a racial phenomenon. I am continually amazed when I take my daughter to playgrounds and other kids just push and butt in line, while their parents sit idly by. When my daughter cuts in line, I usually loudly correct her in front of other parents, to which I inevitably hear some other parent say "It's okay." I reply that "No, it's not. I don't want her to be 'that kid.'"

Yes, that is my point. That type of behavior happens everywhere, with all types of kids, at every school playground. And yet I often hear behavior as an excuse not to send kids to a school like Hearst. But no one sits outside the playground at Janney and says they'd never send their kids there because of the playground behavior, even though the kids act the same. Just as the PP said about the behavior or Hardy kids. They act like middle school kids do everywhere but they are looked at more critically because they are AA.

brakes not breaks.

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

+1

Why so defie site. The poster made and observation and then chose differently for her child. Your snarky response basically telling her you are glad she isn't at Hardy makes me think YOU have concerns as well about behavior but maybe didn't get into the charter you wanted.

I suspect it has nothing to do with that - if the poster had wanted to go to a charter instead of Hardy, they would have gone to a charter.

As a Hardy parent, I can tell you there is a lot of sensitivity to the way Hardy students are judged based on their behavior out of school. I've seen it firsthand - an exuberant group of AA Hardy students outside of school is judged as being a bunch of thugs; a similarly exuberant group of white students from a different school is viewed completely differently - as a happy group of non-threatening middle schoolers. It happens again and again.

So very true. My kids are at Hearst and I hear that comment often from local parents who bring their kids to our playground and say they would never send their kids to the school because of the behavior they observe on the playground. I truly wonder how many groups of elementary schools kids they've observed as a comparison. I suspect it's not the "behavior" of the kids that bothers them, as much as they don't want to admit it to themselves.

You suspect, do you? Jesus, can we please place some breaks on the wild insinuations.

Bad parenting is not a racial phenomenon. I am continually amazed when I take my daughter to playgrounds and other kids just push and butt in line, while their parents sit idly by. When my daughter cuts in line, I usually loudly correct her in front of other parents, to which I inevitably hear some other parent say "It's okay." I reply that "No, it's not. I don't want her to be 'that kid.'"

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

+1

Why so defie site. The poster made and observation and then chose differently for her child. Your snarky response basically telling her you are glad she isn't at Hardy makes me think YOU have concerns as well about behavior but maybe didn't get into the charter you wanted.

I suspect it has nothing to do with that - if the poster had wanted to go to a charter instead of Hardy, they would have gone to a charter.

As a Hardy parent, I can tell you there is a lot of sensitivity to the way Hardy students are judged based on their behavior out of school. I've seen it firsthand - an exuberant group of AA Hardy students outside of school is judged as being a bunch of thugs; a similarly exuberant group of white students from a different school is viewed completely differently - as a happy group of non-threatening middle schoolers. It happens again and again.

So very true. My kids are at Hearst and I hear that comment often from local parents who bring their kids to our playground and say they would never send their kids to the school because of the behavior they observe on the playground. I truly wonder how many groups of elementary schools kids they've observed as a comparison. I suspect it's not the "behavior" of the kids that bothers them, as much as they don't want to admit it to themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

Wasn't the new principal, Patricia Pride, only announced in like August/September of this year? So you talked to her and still managed to get your daughter into a charter for this year? Something does not compute here.

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

+1

Why so defie site. The poster made and observation and then chose differently for her child. Your snarky response basically telling her you are glad she isn't at Hardy makes me think YOU have concerns as well about behavior but maybe didn't get into the charter you wanted.

I suspect it has nothing to do with that - if the poster had wanted to go to a charter instead of Hardy, they would have gone to a charter.

As a Hardy parent, I can tell you there is a lot of sensitivity to the way Hardy students are judged based on their behavior out of school. I've seen it firsthand - an exuberant group of AA Hardy students outside of school is judged as being a bunch of thugs; a similarly exuberant group of white students from a different school is viewed completely differently - as a happy group of non-threatening middle schoolers. It happens again and again.

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

+1

Why so defie site. The poster made and observation and then chose differently for her child. Your snarky response basically telling her you are glad she isn't at Hardy makes me think YOU have concerns as well about behavior but maybe didn't get into the charter you wanted.

Holy leap Batman!

Odd to have an agenda when trying to call someone else out on having an agenda...

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

+1

Why so defie site. The poster made and observation and then chose differently for her child. Your snarky response basically telling her you are glad she isn't at Hardy makes me think YOU have concerns as well about behavior but maybe didn't get into the charter you wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

IB for Hardy here, we considered for a moment but after a talk with the "new-old" principal and after having seen how Hardy students behave outside school we decided to send our daughter to a charter (and we are very happy with our choice).

And the Hardy families are happy with this choice as well.

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^^out of how many?

Anonymous wrote:Any in boundary families sending their kids to Hardy next year?

Since Hardy moved back to it's current location in 2008 there have pretty consistently been about 40 in-boundary kids a year. Next question?