Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 15:30     Subject: Re:Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Anonymous wrote:It seems silly to rank these since my kid has almost no chance of getting into any of them. The lottery is like a blind man throwing darts and hoping one actually lands somewhere on the board.


This.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 14:00     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
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Anonymous wrote:Will oyster still have in boundary this year?


Yes, of course. This year and next and for the foreseeable future. It is only a minority of the Oyster Adams community that would like to change things; the majority (and DCPS) are pretty happy to maintain such a successful and diverse model.


How can this be true if it is majority out of boundary to begin with that a majority of the school prizes the in boundary set up for a specialized school?


Because a majority of those OOB families want their kids to attend a school in a nice, affluent area...not in the hood. You can't remove the boundaries and leave Woodley Park without a neighborhood school. Oyster has been bilingual and on that same corner for over 40 years--nothing major is changing with those boundaries anytime soon. Plus, if there were no boundaries, those parents would still have to travel to WP to attend the school. The real reason some people want Oyster's boundaries abolished is that they resent that affluent families can buy their way into the neighborhood/school. In a word: envy.


In the latest survey the vast majorities of in-bound AND out-bound parents wanted the school to remain in the same locations. Why? I don't think it's so much that "hood" factor as much as:
- Why play with fire? If something is working well, why attempt something radical that might well mean the end of the school as a successful, bilingual and diverse institution?
- Everyone at the school already has work, life and transport arrangements in place. Out-boundary parents and teachers live all over the city, not just in one neighborhood, so for a very significant chunk of them moving the school somewhere farther away from current locations would make life much more difficult, not easier. They would be as affected as the in-bound parents and teachers, if not more


+1 Most O-A families realize there's not much that will happen radically in the short run of next 2-3 years or however long boundaries are grandfathered. The real issue is about O-A kids who can't/don't want to do bilingual for grades 6-8 having the option of feeding to Deal/Wilson. That's the third rail.

Each of the charter immersion schools are quite different from each other. DCPS immersion schools basically come down to O-A or not O-A, for the moment. Who knows, Powell could become the Oyster of the East in a couple of years. But there's still a big issue of middle and high schools with immersion options.

GL all
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 13:45     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
1.Oyster - This is where we are now and wouldn't leave for anything but just to play...
2.LAMB (I a curious about Montessori)
3.MV (Lots of outside play time I hear?)
4.Powell (head good things, not too far from us)
5.Bancroft
6.Stokes
7.Cleveland
8.Marie Reed
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 13:42     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
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Anonymous wrote:I always wonder why parents say Montessori isn't for their child. Do you have experience with the philosophy to test its effectiveness? I have no dog in the fight, just curious.


I know about Montessori b/c I have nieces and nephews who went. My child needs more structure and direction.


NP, this is very true. Even Montessori teachers will tell you, the model is not ideal for every child. Some kids are fine either way, some thrive, and some really require a more structured environment.


we used to send our kids to a Montessori school. while i fully believe that Montessori is NOT for every child, every Montessori teacher with whom i have spoken believe that Montessori is for every child.


Ok, not every Montessori teacher will say that, but some do understand. Especially those (like my neighbor) who put her own kid in Montessori and saw how it was not the best fit. Well, full story is she moved somewhere that didn't have it and saw how that child thrived in unexpected ways. Then she got it, and now she can explain it's not for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 13:05     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Anonymous wrote:I always wonder why parents say Montessori isn't for their child. Do you have experience with the philosophy to test its effectiveness? I have no dog in the fight, just curious.


My DD is a social butterfly and the model will not work for her although it's right up her alley
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 12:42     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I always wonder why parents say Montessori isn't for their child. Do you have experience with the philosophy to test its effectiveness? I have no dog in the fight, just curious.


I know about Montessori b/c I have nieces and nephews who went. My child needs more structure and direction.


NP, this is very true. Even Montessori teachers will tell you, the model is not ideal for every child. Some kids are fine either way, some thrive, and some really require a more structured environment.


we used to send our kids to a Montessori school. while i fully believe that Montessori is NOT for every child, every Montessori teacher with whom i have spoken believe that Montessori is for every child.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 11:59     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I always wonder why parents say Montessori isn't for their child. Do you have experience with the philosophy to test its effectiveness? I have no dog in the fight, just curious.


I know about Montessori b/c I have nieces and nephews who went. My child needs more structure and direction.


NP, this is very true. Even Montessori teachers will tell you, the model is not ideal for every child. Some kids are fine either way, some thrive, and some really require a more structured environment.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 10:33     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Anonymous wrote:I always wonder why parents say Montessori isn't for their child. Do you have experience with the philosophy to test its effectiveness? I have no dog in the fight, just curious.


I know about Montessori b/c I have nieces and nephews who went. My child needs more structure and direction.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 10:24     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
I always wonder why parents say Montessori isn't for their child. Do you have experience with the philosophy to test its effectiveness? I have no dog in the fight, just curious.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 09:30     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
I only have experience with preschool, but Bethune has half-day Spanish immersion in the early grades and is definitely worth consideration.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 09:21     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
MV
Oyster
LAMB ( although this model isn't for my child)
Powell (my son is currently a PS4 student)
Bancroft
Tyler
Stokes
Cleveland
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 09:14     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will oyster still have in boundary this year?


Yes, of course. This year and next and for the foreseeable future. It is only a minority of the Oyster Adams community that would like to change things; the majority (and DCPS) are pretty happy to maintain such a successful and diverse model.


How can this be true if it is majority out of boundary to begin with that a majority of the school prizes the in boundary set up for a specialized school?


Because a majority of those OOB families want their kids to attend a school in a nice, affluent area...not in the hood. You can't remove the boundaries and leave Woodley Park without a neighborhood school. Oyster has been bilingual and on that same corner for over 40 years--nothing major is changing with those boundaries anytime soon. Plus, if there were no boundaries, those parents would still have to travel to WP to attend the school. The real reason some people want Oyster's boundaries abolished is that they resent that affluent families can buy their way into the neighborhood/school. In a word: envy.


In the latest survey the vast majorities of in-bound AND out-bound parents wanted the school to remain in the same locations. Why? I don't think it's so much that "hood" factor as much as:
- Why play with fire? If something is working well, why attempt something radical that might well mean the end of the school as a successful, bilingual and diverse institution?
- Everyone at the school already has work, life and transport arrangements in place. Out-boundary parents and teachers live all over the city, not just in one neighborhood, so for a very significant chunk of them moving the school somewhere farther away from current locations would make life much more difficult, not easier. They would be as affected as the in-bound parents and teachers, if not more

Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 06:48     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
My son goes to Powell for PS3. Very happy our neighborhood school is a dual language school.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 00:25     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
LAMB
MV
Stokes
Oyster (though not realistic obviously)
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2013 00:22     Subject: Rank your top Spanish immersion programs
Mundo Verde
LAMB
Stokes
Cleveland