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Anonymous wrote:Enrollment is far from "proportional." It is much more difficult to be admitted from NoVa, higher grades/ranks/SATs are required of NoVa applicants, the average NoVa student receives less in non-loan aid than the average student from the red areas, and the differences have become extreme -- students from some western/southern VA counties are admitted with what amount to essentially remedial-level SAT scores, while NoVa students have to be well within the top 10% even to make the first, non-dispositive pass. UVA and W&M have become nothing but the blue subsidizing the red.

Is there any info on how long this has been going on? I am wondering how this disparity, which my NoVa kid experienced firsthand, bears on graduation rates.

Anonymous wrote:Enrollment is far from "proportional." It is much more difficult to be admitted from NoVa, higher grades/ranks/SATs are required of NoVa applicants, the average NoVa student receives less in non-loan aid than the average student from the red areas, and the differences have become extreme -- students from some western/southern VA counties are admitted with what amount to essentially remedial-level SAT scores, while NoVa students have to be well within the top 10% even to make the first, non-dispositive pass. UVA and W&M have become nothing but the blue subsidizing the red.

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Anonymous wrote:The above stats mean squat - for getting in - if your kid is from Northern Virginia.

True. If you're from NoVa, the Virginia state universities do NOT not ot want you at all. The state system has become a mechanism for NoVa to subsidize Goochelberg county.

In 2012, 35.44% of the undergraduate students at UVa were from Alexandria/Arlington/Ffx/Falls Church/Fauquier/Loudoun/Manassas/Pr William. (54% of undergrads were from Virginia, 46% were not.) By comparison, those areas comprised 28.33% of the population of the state. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison since not every person is of college age, but it appears at first glance that at least at UVa, enrollment from Northern Virginia is roughly proportional to that of the rest of the state.

Interesting statistics here: http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/instreports/studentdata.shtm (office of Institutional Assessment & Studies)

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Anonymous wrote:The above stats mean squat - for getting in - if your kid is from Northern Virginia.

True. If you're from NoVa, the Virginia state universities do NOT not ot want you at all. The state system has become a mechanism for NoVa to subsidize Goochelberg county.

Anonymous wrote:UMW alum here: loved my four years there. The campus and buildings are just beautiful; the quintessential classic college campus. After touring several other schools, I knew when I first laid eyes on Mary Washington and walked around that it was the place for me. Yes, it's a small school, though bigger than many other SLACs. It's true there is no Greek system whatsoever, which is one of the main reasons I chose it. Parties were open to everyone and usually just organized within dorms or at off-campus apts. One thing I loved about the school was that everyone was friends with everyone else and you always recognized someone in your classes or around campus. I didn't want to go to an enormous university where I would just have been one among many anonymous students. The old town area of Fredericksburg is adorable, lots of antique stores and restaurants. My friends and I used to meet up for brunch downtown sometimes on the weekends. As for the male/female ratio, I never, ever felt that there were too few guys there. When you're actually going to the school, it isn't particularly noticeable that there are more female students, at least it wasn't to me. Lots of great friendships with the guys, as well as several boyfriends during my time there. I had some incredible professors who opened my mind to all kinds of different ways of looking at the world. I made lifelong friends at Mary Washington and hope that one of my kids will want to go there someday as well. Highly recommend this school.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a beautiful school, with great academics - small classes, amazing professors. Not a huge party school either, which i liked. I hated Fredericksburg itself - very small, very southern town. I graduated almost 15 years ago, though, so not sure how much has changed (and how did I get so old!?)

Fburg has got a nice small liberal community but you have to know where to look. I found it at the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship. But still that's not probably a big draw for a college student.

I'm curious why you would think anyone would look for a liberal community? Or, why you think pp specifically was looking for one? Ethnocentric much?

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Anonymous wrote:It's a beautiful school, with great academics - small classes, amazing professors. Not a huge party school either, which i liked. I hated Fredericksburg itself - very small, very southern town. I graduated almost 15 years ago, though, so not sure how much has changed (and how did I get so old!?)

Fburg has got a nice small liberal community but you have to know where to look. I found it at the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship. But still that's not probably a big draw for a college student.

Anonymous wrote:The above stats mean squat - for getting in - if your kid is from Northern Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Comparable to a College of Charleston or Christopher Newport, a notch below JMU

Middle 50% of SAT scores of freshman class, 2011-2012:

Mary Washington--reading 520-630, math 510-600
College of Charleston--reading 550-650, math 560-650
Christopher Newport--reading 520-630, math 520-610
JMU--reading 520-620, math 530-620

Not much daylight between these 4.

Anonymous wrote:Comparable to a College of Charleston or Christopher Newport, a notch below JMU