Anonymous
11/15/2013 11:32
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The new grading appears to be very subjective.
The old grading was based on 100% = perfect score and on down. Was likely more objective.
100% of what, though?
Grading is subjective, period.
No, it doesn't have to be. You have an exam at the end of the semester, which determines the attainment grade, like they do in civilized countries.
Anonymous
11/15/2013 10:57
Subject: Re:P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:If you believe that grading can only be subjective then you have never taught or you are a bad teacher. It is a lot of work to put in place and maintain an objective grading standard. It is even MORE work to give students consistent feedback and teach them so they can earn the highest grade reflective of their potential. It is far easier to present the material, let the kids work without any guidance, and then "grade" them on a curve or cluster them all into the same grade.
There is nothing in MCPS that rewards teachers for teaching. There are several dedicated teachers who embrace the idea of getting each child to work to their potential but most don't or feel they don't have time. The central office doesn't care at all. Their focus is solely test performance and the bottom performers.
9:42 here -- I understand what you are saying, however my point was that because teachers are people and people are different that there will always be an element of subjectivity in grading. Even if the only difference is 1 teacher is great and the other is awful(however you would classify and make that determination).
Anonymous
11/15/2013 09:58
Subject: Re:P's and I's?
If you believe that grading can only be subjective then you have never taught or you are a bad teacher. It is a lot of work to put in place and maintain an objective grading standard. It is even MORE work to give students consistent feedback and teach them so they can earn the highest grade reflective of their potential. It is far easier to present the material, let the kids work without any guidance, and then "grade" them on a curve or cluster them all into the same grade.
There is nothing in MCPS that rewards teachers for teaching. There are several dedicated teachers who embrace the idea of getting each child to work to their potential but most don't or feel they don't have time. The central office doesn't care at all. Their focus is solely test performance and the bottom performers.
There is nothing in MCPS that rewards teachers for teaching. There are several dedicated teachers who embrace the idea of getting each child to work to their potential but most don't or feel they don't have time. The central office doesn't care at all. Their focus is solely test performance and the bottom performers.
Anonymous
11/15/2013 09:42
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The new grading appears to be very subjective.
The old grading was based on 100% = perfect score and on down. Was likely more objective.
100% of what, though?
Grading is subjective, period.
+1
Grading is subjective, no matter what the symbols are...A, B, P, I
One teacher grades on a curve, the one next door he offers extra credit, and the one next to him offers make up tests....it is all subjective...one base standard from which they may all deviate a little bit to arrive at the grades that they give
Anonymous
11/15/2013 06:34
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:The new grading appears to be very subjective.
The old grading was based on 100% = perfect score and on down. Was likely more objective.
100% of what, though?
Grading is subjective, period.
Anonymous
11/14/2013 23:02
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My HGC (4th) got all P, 2 ES, 1 I (in PE)
What does it mean? Whatever.
If they got 2 ES and 1 I, how did they get all P?
The HCG genes were passed down on the father's side.
LOL!
You are right! I only passed down my beauteousness genes. LOL. OK - let me try again - all Ps, EXCEPT 2 ESs, and 1 I.
Happy now, grumbly pants?
Actually, we were commenting about the poster who didn't understand what you meant in your initial response.
no problema amiga! The thing is that it is extremely frustrating to deal with the new reporting.
I was teasing about the "grumbly pants" bit ...but was serious about the "beauteousness genes"
Anonymous
11/14/2013 22:46
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My HGC (4th) got all P, 2 ES, 1 I (in PE)
What does it mean? Whatever.
If they got 2 ES and 1 I, how did they get all P?
The HCG genes were passed down on the father's side.
LOL!
You are right! I only passed down my beauteousness genes. LOL. OK - let me try again - all Ps, EXCEPT 2 ESs, and 1 I.
Happy now, grumbly pants?
Actually, we were commenting about the poster who didn't understand what you meant in your initial response.
Anonymous
11/14/2013 20:36
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My HGC (4th) got all P, 2 ES, 1 I (in PE)
What does it mean? Whatever.
If they got 2 ES and 1 I, how did they get all P?
The HCG genes were passed down on the father's side.
LOL!
You are right! I only passed down my beauteousness genes. LOL. OK - let me try again - all Ps, EXCEPT 2 ESs, and 1 I.
Happy now, grumbly pants?
Anonymous
11/14/2013 19:18
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My HGC (4th) got all P, 2 ES, 1 I (in PE)
What does it mean? Whatever.
If they got 2 ES and 1 I, how did they get all P?
The HCG genes were passed down on the father's side.
LOL!
Anonymous
11/14/2013 18:45
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My HGC (4th) got all P, 2 ES, 1 I (in PE)
What does it mean? Whatever.
If they got 2 ES and 1 I, how did they get all P?
The HCG genes were passed down on the father's side.
Anonymous
11/14/2013 18:44
Subject: P's and I's?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure either. I am trying to figure out all these ES thigns are, is that good? tha tis all my kids got. I miss the old ones
They don't normally give out ES too often. So if that's all your kid got, I'd question exactly WHAT is being taught.
b/c I doubt your kid's a genius
Anonymous
11/14/2013 16:59
Subject: P's and I's?
The new grading appears to be very subjective.
The old grading was based on 100% = perfect score and on down. Was likely more objective.
The old grading was based on 100% = perfect score and on down. Was likely more objective.
Anonymous
11/14/2013 16:52
Subject: Re:P's and I's?
I was told at the parent-teacher conference that my son was "academically strong" in both math and reading, and the report card showed just about all Ps, with one ES and one I. So I'm assuming that's a good grade for this teacher.
Anonymous
11/14/2013 15:26
Subject: P's and I's?
all P's end of the school year, yes. MP1, no.
Anonymous
11/14/2013 13:42
Subject: P's and I's?
My early elementary kid got mostly Ps, a few Is, and no ESs which was a surprise after getting Ps and several ESs last year and consistently high MAP scores. The teacher said that my kid is a strong student and that the teachers had met and decided that the grading standards would be tough this year. The explanation of the Is was definitely lacking. It left me with the impression that different teachers just apply these nebulous grades very differently and without much concrete guidance from MCPS. The report card seems pointless. The teacher's comments and description of my kid's performance at the conference are the most telling so I'm focusing on that.