Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 16:58     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Another thank you, OP, for starting this discussion.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 14:25     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Lots of great suggestions.

I think the key is just to initiate the conversation and to give explicit permission for your child to tell you if they fail or are not okay. Let them know it will be a challenge to work through but you will support them through it. Keep having this conversation every year. Encourage them to use academic and counseling services on their campus that can also offer support. Although at my college, the counseling services are so overworked that there are long waiting lists to see someone.

This post was the result of these conversations I have been having including one where I spoke with a young woman (a junior) a couple weeks ago who was failing a course. She failed because her stress and anxiety was compounding over the semester and was so high she wasn't eating or sleeping. She had never had anxiety before and didn't know what happened to her. She also didn't know how to talk about failure as she hadn't failed before. She told me she is really close to her family, talks to them multiple times a week and that her dad is basically her best friend..but that as far as they know, everything is fine, other than she is stressed about her roommate. She was having suicidal thoughts and in desperate need of support but didn't know how to start that conversation with them.




It is very helpful, developmentally, for children to fail at some point for this very reason. And in some ways its an argument for stronger, not weaker, boundaries with parents. If Dad is her best friend, she's going to be even less likely to want to disappint him. This is also a good reason to tell our children to look out for their friends and roommates. I know of a situation where friends of a college student in serious trouble called his parents and probably saved his life. The school has confidentiality issues but fellow students do not.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 14:20     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is important to understand several things. Parents have held the kids hands so much as they grow up and then this is the first time they are away from home and add in the stress of school without the parents help, the stress of fitting in with a new group of friends, lots of freedom, and it is a recipe for disaster for some.

Many parents encourage their kids to go to the best school because they think it is best but think about all those things I mentioned above plus add in they are trying to please you.

This culture of must be the best, go to the best school, make the most money etc is crushing them.

Think about that before pushing them to the best schools etc. When they are hurting they are very vulnerable............who knows what can or will happen then.

Sure some kids are cut out for it. Some are not. I am really ok with my kids being average-even below average is ok with me.


We and the parents we know let our kids pick the college they want to attend.


Yes, of course, but don't you expect them to apply within a certain range of colleges? How happy would you be if they applied to a school that wasn't at all competitive, or had an alternative approach to education?And before you think "well my DC isn't interested in those schools," thats precisely my point. I don't think PP was thinking of parents who say "you WILL go to Amherst," but rather parents whose "suggestions" all fit certain criteria. The message is clear. If the schools you either suggest or give a positive response to are schools like top SLACs, Ivies, your DC has gotten a very good sense of what would make you proud.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 13:11     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Anonymous wrote:I think the key is just to initiate the conversation and to give explicit permission for your child to tell you if they fail or are not okay. Let them know it will be a challenge to work through but you will support them through it. Keep having this conversation every year. Encourage them to use academic and counseling services on their campus that can also offer support. Although at my college, the counseling services are so overworked that there are long waiting lists to see someone.

Working with the counseling service has the side benefit of the student managing her own mental health. At some point a young person needs to start making health-related decisions and the best parents can do it give advice when asked, and keep lines of communications open/check in as the OP said.

Anxiety and depression can worsen as a side effect of medications, including hormonal birth control. I know of someone who discontinued BC because she started having panic attacks. If BC is taken to reduce acne, maybe it's time to look at other options. After all, for pregnancy and especially STD prevention they need to use condoms regardless, right?
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 12:55     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Anonymous wrote:I think it is important to understand several things. Parents have held the kids hands so much as they grow up and then this is the first time they are away from home and add in the stress of school without the parents help, the stress of fitting in with a new group of friends, lots of freedom, and it is a recipe for disaster for some.

Many parents encourage their kids to go to the best school because they think it is best but think about all those things I mentioned above plus add in they are trying to please you.

This culture of must be the best, go to the best school, make the most money etc is crushing them.

Think about that before pushing them to the best schools etc. When they are hurting they are very vulnerable............who knows what can or will happen then.

Sure some kids are cut out for it. Some are not. I am really ok with my kids being average-even below average is ok with me.


We and the parents we know let our kids pick the college they want to attend.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 11:59     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

I think it is important to understand several things. Parents have held the kids hands so much as they grow up and then this is the first time they are away from home and add in the stress of school without the parents help, the stress of fitting in with a new group of friends, lots of freedom, and it is a recipe for disaster for some.

Many parents encourage their kids to go to the best school because they think it is best but think about all those things I mentioned above plus add in they are trying to please you.

This culture of must be the best, go to the best school, make the most money etc is crushing them.

Think about that before pushing them to the best schools etc. When they are hurting they are very vulnerable............who knows what can or will happen then.

Sure some kids are cut out for it. Some are not. I am really ok with my kids being average-even below average is ok with me.

Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 11:33     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

OP here. Lots of great suggestions.

I think the key is just to initiate the conversation and to give explicit permission for your child to tell you if they fail or are not okay. Let them know it will be a challenge to work through but you will support them through it. Keep having this conversation every year. Encourage them to use academic and counseling services on their campus that can also offer support. Although at my college, the counseling services are so overworked that there are long waiting lists to see someone.

This post was the result of these conversations I have been having including one where I spoke with a young woman (a junior) a couple weeks ago who was failing a course. She failed because her stress and anxiety was compounding over the semester and was so high she wasn't eating or sleeping. She had never had anxiety before and didn't know what happened to her. She also didn't know how to talk about failure as she hadn't failed before. She told me she is really close to her family, talks to them multiple times a week and that her dad is basically her best friend..but that as far as they know, everything is fine, other than she is stressed about her roommate. She was having suicidal thoughts and in desperate need of support but didn't know how to start that conversation with them.


Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 10:51     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Anonymous wrote:This is a really good reason to address potential mental health issues while kids are still at home, especially senior year. If you have any concerns about your children at all, get help NOW before they go to school. I think very often parents hope that it is all just a reflection of the pressure of applying to colleges and that once that gets settled in the spring, everything will be OK. And you may see an improvement in mood as your DC believes he is about to leave behind whatever is causing him pain. But unless you've dealt with underlying issues with a professional they will only reappear at college. And as others have pointed out, you won't be there to recognize it. If you get your DC help in high school (and set up a relationship with a therapist in college, if you think it is necessary) they will be much better equipped.

I don't think the mental health problems these kids encounter are the result of homesickness or pressure, though these are stressors that contribute. I think some of this is the timing of kids being away from home at the precise age when many problems first surface as well as the ways in which our culture has distorted things with the academic and other competition.


There is a difference between mental health and mental illness. You are right this is the age when mental illness might first surface or kids who managed their illness in a supportive home environment find if difficult to manage at college. However the college environment is very hard on mental health and kids who slide into very poor mental health can be very unwell and/or end up developing mental illness from spending too long in a state of poor mental health.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2013 10:42     Subject: Parents - please check in with your kids

Thank you, OP, for starting this thread. Its very important to discuss this.