Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 13:20     Subject: Re:Changing the Redskins team name
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_team_names_and_mascots_derived_from_indigenous_peoples

Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 13:17     Subject: Re:Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1) I don't think anybody has refused to change the name, I think they don't think It makes sense right now.

When the team owner says, "We will never change the name of the team," I consider that somebody refusing to change the name.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9259866/daniel-snyder-says-washington-redskins-never-change-team-name


I would lay a bet it is changed in the next 5 years. Don't believe everything you read in the paper, this is racial and sells. Also the commissioner of football has approved a name change, there has also been paperwork submitted to the patent office for various names.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 13:03     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hello, the American Indians lost. It's fun to feel sorry for someone when they aren't a threat: that is why we like wolves, and mountain lions, and American Indians. They were a real and potent threat, that's why they were killed, in accordance with the values of the time the killing was done in. They tortured and killed an awful lot of people as well, raping women and cutting the skin off of people in strips, roasting and eating it.

It's all well and good to feel sorry now, as we live in this land now, but please don't go all we killed the poor peaceful Indians on me.
you must be a gem in real life.


Truth hurts, there? The original inhabitants of this land weren't peaceful, spiritual people. They were pretty awful by modern standards.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 12:42     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:Hello, the American Indians lost. It's fun to feel sorry for someone when they aren't a threat: that is why we like wolves, and mountain lions, and American Indians. They were a real and potent threat, that's why they were killed, in accordance with the values of the time the killing was done in. They tortured and killed an awful lot of people as well, raping women and cutting the skin off of people in strips, roasting and eating it.

It's all well and good to feel sorry now, as we live in this land now, but please don't go all we killed the poor peaceful Indians on me.
you must be a gem in real life.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:44     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
I think the name will be changed eventually. I also think that is really unfortunate.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:30     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:Political correctness and the supersensitivity of minorities is killing this country. Channel your outrage and energy to the poverty, alcoholism, drug addicts, ill educated, hopelessnessand helplessness of Amerivan Indians. Ranting about the name of an NFL football team worth hundteds of millions is disingenious at best.


+1
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:29     Subject: Re:Changing the Redskins team name
Redskin isn't even in American vernacular like so many other slurs, it just isn't.


This is the huge argument for me. If you heard the term "Redskin" 10,000 times, 9,999 of those times it would be referring to the team, and maybe the one other time it would be used as the slur.

And OP, the NFL has zero authority over the name change. The decision is Snyder's.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:28     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:I work in American Indian communities. I see this issue as just another slap in the face to them. Why is it that the capital of this country has to have a racial slur as it's mascot? Is it to pay homage to the decades of prejudice and cruelty towards Indians?


The real cruelty is how Native Americans have been and are being treated, exemplified by the disgusting living conditions and education/ career prospects in reservations. It would be difficult to think of any other country where native populations live worse. The name thing is just a "feel good" distraction from that.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:28     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I take offense at Notre Dame and no one ever suggests they change their name. Redskin isn't even in American vernacular like so many other slurs, it just isn't. You're kidding yourself if you think it is.

Oh, and the team was born in Boston, not Washington.

HTTR


Maybe it's not in your vernacular because there aren't Indians anymore in DC area?


That makes no sense. But I actually grew up in the shadows of the Oneida Indian Nation and have been listening to Ray Hallbritter for 25 years. The "Rez" as its called has a magnificent casino and two outstanding golf courses. That Tiger Woods plays on once a year.

No sympathy whatsoever.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:24     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
I think the minute Dan Snyder invoked the Pine Ridge Reservation as helping George Allen design the helmet emblem in 1972 and the tribe that lived there pushed back and said, "that never happened and by the way we think the name is offensive" that should have been the clue to switfly drop it.

It is not true that a "majority" of American Indians are OK with the name.

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2013/10/18/native-americansspeakupaboutredskinsnamecontroversy.html

The survey frequently referenced is 9 years old. Nine years ago the majority of people opposed gay marriage, too.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:23     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Hello, the American Indians lost. It's fun to feel sorry for someone when they aren't a threat: that is why we like wolves, and mountain lions, and American Indians. They were a real and potent threat, that's why they were killed, in accordance with the values of the time the killing was done in. They tortured and killed an awful lot of people as well, raping women and cutting the skin off of people in strips, roasting and eating it.

It's all well and good to feel sorry now, as we live in this land now, but please don't go all we killed the poor peaceful Indians on me.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:19     Subject: Re:Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:1) I don't think anybody has refused to change the name, I think they don't think It makes sense right now.

When the team owner says, "We will never change the name of the team," I consider that somebody refusing to change the name.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9259866/daniel-snyder-says-washington-redskins-never-change-team-name
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:19     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
Anonymous wrote:I take offense at Notre Dame and no one ever suggests they change their name. Redskin isn't even in American vernacular like so many other slurs, it just isn't. You're kidding yourself if you think it is.

Oh, and the team was born in Boston, not Washington.

HTTR


Maybe it's not in your vernacular because there aren't Indians anymore in DC area?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:17     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
I take offense at Notre Dame and no one ever suggests they change their name. Redskin isn't even in American vernacular like so many other slurs, it just isn't. You're kidding yourself if you think it is.

Oh, and the team was born in Boston, not Washington.

HTTR
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2013 10:14     Subject: Changing the Redskins team name
as a rep from the oneida nation said, indiana heard the slur "redskins" as they were dragged and killed over the years. sick. just sick.


i guarantee that if this were in reference to a slur on anither minority (asian, black, jewish), there would be no pushback.

yet again, american indians get bypassed and ignored.