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Anonymous wrote:Public school in a non-elite area. Or maybe Catholic school.

Are you kidding? There is more drinking among the Catholics than anywhere else.

I was going to say the same thing! There is plenty of drinking and drugs at Catholic schools. At least as much as non-Catholic schools.

I agree that all-girls schools tend to have less of a drug and alcohol culture than co-ed.

There is no way STA boys would have a party like that shown in the Gansler photos. I don't think concerned parents should be forced to accept that every school has a similar culture.

I find that highly unlikely. These are high school aged boys, some of whom will probably join frats. Even if they are smart and motivated, they are still 14-18 year old boys. You can turn a blind eye, but it happens everywhere.

Anonymous wrote:Look at schools with a strong sense of community - lots of family involvement. It exists everywhere, but when families are tied in, it lessens the amount and the severity of what there is at that school.

Unless the parents are partying in front of their children constantly - setting a bad example. At our Big 3 there are a few parents that are known for literally doing shots in front if their elementary age children at events that are supposed to be focused are children's events.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents of girls, the safest choice by far is an all girl’s school. Yes, the girls will be subject to the DMV drug and alcohol culture on weekends, but school will be a safe haven.

Agree. Madeira is quite strict and while there will always be some who drink, it's at a pretty low level there. Girls have been suspended or expelled for breaking the rules.

All schools will punish kids who drink on campus. The question is what happens at parties on weekends. And the all girls schools have just as much drinking as any other schools

Madeira rules cover off campus too. That's a big difference with day schools.

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Anonymous wrote:For parents of girls, the safest choice by far is an all girl’s school. Yes, the girls will be subject to the DMV drug and alcohol culture on weekends, but school will be a safe haven.

Agree. Madeira is quite strict and while there will always be some who drink, it's at a pretty low level there. Girls have been suspended or expelled for breaking the rules.

All schools will punish kids who drink on campus. The question is what happens at parties on weekends. And the all girls schools have just as much drinking as any other schools

Anonymous wrote:Public school in a non-elite area. Or maybe Catholic school.

Are you kidding? There is more drinking among the Catholics than anywhere else.

Anonymous wrote:There is no way STA boys would have a party like that shown in the Gansler photos. I don't think concerned parents should be forced to accept that every school has a similar culture.

No one is forcing you to accept the truth but if you think there is "no way" STA boys would have a party like that, you are misguided. First of all, the Gansler pictures showed kids dancing and some were drinking alcohol out of paper cups. I'm not defending underage drinking but there was nothing in those pictures that looked particularly decadent or extreme. Kids were dancing. Thats hardly the sign of an out of control party. Second, I KNOW STA boys drink as much as any kids at any school. Have you ever driven near the Close on the nights of school dances and seen the STA boys on street corners drinking out of flasks? I have. As the mother of an NCS girl I hear the stories all the time.

No one is forcing you to accept anything but if you think you can insulate your kids from this you are dreaming.

Anonymous wrote:For parents of girls, the safest choice by far is an all girl’s school. Yes, the girls will be subject to the DMV drug and alcohol culture on weekends, but school will be a safe haven.

Agree. Madeira is quite strict and while there will always be some who drink, it's at a pretty low level there. Girls have been suspended or expelled for breaking the rules.

For parents of girls, the safest choice by far is an all girl’s school. Yes, the girls will be subject to the DMV drug and alcohol culture on weekends, but school will be a safe haven.

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Anonymous wrote:Washington International School.

+1 binge drinking as a rite of passage isn't a global tradition

Oh please. It's actually worse there because many parents condone alcohol. My DC (not a student there) left a WIS party because there was so much drinking. This was a party of mostly 10th graders. Now to be fair, based on the kids we knew, there was less binge drinking by 12th grade.

The issue is not whether there is some drinking and drugs at all schools, but what is the prevailing culture? I'm sure there are kids at The Heights who use drugs, but it is no where near as pervasive as the GDS drug culture. There is no way STA boys would have a party like that shown in the Gansler photos. I don't think concerned parents should be forced to accept that every school has a similar culture.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school ncs had way less drugs than maret or gds. not sure if that is still the case. I didnt see or smell pot till high school. I'd say very few people did drugs ninth and tenth grade and junior and senior year it was maybe fifteen percent of the class. No on in my clique of ten girls did drugs. We didnt even drink on prom night.

Well when I went to NCS we did all those things and since I have a DD there I know they still do. Bot everyone, of course. But it was and is way more than 15%.

I graduated in the early 90s. Yes, some got high in the bishop garden, but most did not.

Getting high on the Close, is one thing -- yeah probably only 15%, or less. But drinking or getting high at parties? WAAAAAAAy more than that.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school ncs had way less drugs than maret or gds. not sure if that is still the case. I didnt see or smell pot till high school. I'd say very few people did drugs ninth and tenth grade and junior and senior year it was maybe fifteen percent of the class. No on in my clique of ten girls did drugs. We didnt even drink on prom night.

Well when I went to NCS we did all those things and since I have a DD there I know they still do. Bot everyone, of course. But it was and is way more than 15%.

I graduated in the early 90s. Yes, some got high in the bishop garden, but most did not.

Public school in a non-elite area. Or maybe Catholic school.

Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school ncs had way less drugs than maret or gds. not sure if that is still the case. I didnt see or smell pot till high school. I'd say very few people did drugs ninth and tenth grade and junior and senior year it was maybe fifteen percent of the class. No on in my clique of ten girls did drugs. We didnt even drink on prom night.

Well when I went to NCS we did all those things and since I have a DD there I know they still do. Bot everyone, of course. But it was and is way more than 15%.