OP -- enough already. This same question has come up many times. Search the archives. And AAP is not for gifted kids. FCPS clearly says so.

Let me guess, your kid is in GE and you have made it your mission to dismantle AAP.

Anonymous wrote:Definitely not gifted. Maybe not even that advanced? Frankly, we were shocked when DC got into AAP. Bright, yes, but not really advanced.

Ditto.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

Based on a normal distribution if IQ scores, about 2% of the general population would be above this 130 threshold. Since the DC metro area skews high for IQ (as shown by SAT scores etc) it's not hard to imagine that this 2% number would be higher, perhaps significantly so. It's probably not possible that 30% of the school age population being admitted to AAP is above this threshold, but I wouldn't be surprised if 5-10% were.

So for children scoring above 130 on an IQ test (such as the WISC-IV), they should be considered "gifted?"

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

Based on a normal distribution if IQ scores, about 2% of the general population would be above this 130 threshold. Since the DC metro area skews high for IQ (as shown by SAT scores etc) it's not hard to imagine that this 2% number would be higher, perhaps significantly so. It's probably not possible that 30% of the school age population being admitted to AAP is above this threshold, but I wouldn't be surprised if 5-10% were.

So for children scoring above 130 on an IQ test (such as the WISC-IV), they should be considered "gifted?"

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1 kid in AAP. Gifted? No. Advanced Academically compared to majority of peers? Yes.

My opinion from observing about 60 of child's AAP classmates over the past 4 years: probably 10-15 truly gifted children. Remainder are just ahead of most kids their age, more mature and/or disciplined, or pushed a heck of a lot harder by parents.

Anonymous wrote:Years ago when I heard that a child was in the program I was impressed. Today, not at all. SO MANY kids are in AAP these days that it is really not a big distinction at all. Nothing special at all. In fact, I imagine that the ones that are not in AAP must be pretty low down the ladder if they did not make it into the program.

Not necessarily true. DC scored 85 on the CogAT and in the 90% on the NNAT, and DC is in gen ed. Scores were much higher for quantitative and nonverbal, lower for verbal. We didn't parent refer. With advanced math in the school (which DC is in), and in a high SES area, we didn't feel DC would need AAP. DC loves his class, and DC really enjoys being a "big fish." The gen ed class seems advanced to us. We have almost no ESOL (only a few diplomat kids), and most kids appear to be at or above grade level. I've volunteered, and I don't see a class full of kids struggling.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

http://www.nagc.org/index2.aspx?id=548

Let's not pretend otherwise. This is common knowledge, though I'm sure you like to argue the point when it comes to your own child.

Not really. My children both scored in excess of 145 on the WISC-IV so it does nothing re: "arguing the point when it comes to my own child(ren)" but I would like to know what you seem to have designated to be The Line for my children's classmates in their respective AAP Center classrooms.

^ Yup. And that's why so many non-AAP patents sound so grumpy and defensive about it in these forums.

Years ago when I heard that a child was in the program I was impressed. Today, not at all. SO MANY kids are in AAP these days that it is really not a big distinction at all. Nothing special at all. In fact, I imagine that the ones that are not in AAP must be pretty low down the ladder if they did not make it into the program.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

Based on a normal distribution if IQ scores, about 2% of the general population would be above this 130 threshold. Since the DC metro area skews high for IQ (as shown by SAT scores etc) it's not hard to imagine that this 2% number would be higher, perhaps significantly so. It's probably not possible that 30% of the school age population being admitted to AAP is above this threshold, but I wouldn't be surprised if 5-10% were.

No, it's not.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

http://www.nagc.org/index2.aspx?id=548

Let's not pretend otherwise. This is common knowledge, though I'm sure you like to argue the point when it comes to your own child.

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So for children scoring above 130 on an IQ test (such as the WISC-IV), they should be considered "gifted?"

Maybe not, but children who score above 140 in WISC-IV should. The percentile is 99.6% and above. If this doesn't indicate "gifted", then what does?

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

Based on a normal distribution if IQ scores, about 2% of the general population would be above this 130 threshold. Since the DC metro area skews high for IQ (as shown by SAT scores etc) it's not hard to imagine that this 2% number would be higher, perhaps significantly so. It's probably not possible that 30% of the school age population being admitted to AAP is above this threshold, but I wouldn't be surprised if 5-10% were.

So for children scoring above 130 on an IQ test (such as the WISC-IV), they should be considered "gifted?"

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?

Based on a normal distribution if IQ scores, about 2% of the general population would be above this 130 threshold. Since the DC metro area skews high for IQ (as shown by SAT scores etc) it's not hard to imagine that this 2% number would be higher, perhaps significantly so. It's probably not possible that 30% of the school age population being admitted to AAP is above this threshold, but I wouldn't be surprised if 5-10% were.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the common definition, if a kid's IQ is above 130, she/he is gifted.
Many kids in AAP are gifted.

And most are not. The truly gifted make up a tiny % of the population, not the masses they admit to AAP.

Citation/source, please?