Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:37     Subject: Immersion Programs
Can Bethune switch a 50/50 model and retain black teachers or not. This is really a simple debate to squash. Either they can or can't. Also, why haven't they already changed with all of these spanish-speakers coming out of the wood work there.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:35     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:Do any DC school have 50/50 model. Even the well established DCPS dual language schools don't.

Oyster is 50/50 two-way. That's the only DCPS dual language worth discussing. The others are by default. They're improving but their numbers are abominable right now.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:34     Subject: Immersion Programs
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Anonymous wrote:^^ Just like we said, your bullshit doesn't pass the smell test. Duh! Bethune's model of a spanish class starting in 3rd or whatever is not supported in the research about bilingual ed. If they opted to switch to the dual language 50/50 model, they would have no need for many of their English language teachers and a higher need for Spanish speakers. The English only folks would be canned. That's common sense. Many of the English folks are African American. For a school serving mainly African Americans and in an environment where we're seeing less and less AAs, there would be a firestorm if black teachers got canned in favor of Spanish speakers. DUH!

Please stop posting as if you have any knowledge about the school whatsoever. You are obviously posting directly from your ass.


No. You're so much of a pro at, I'll leave that to you. Thank goodness I'm at a top charter. With idiots like you at Bethune, so glad I'm not there. Too bad for the kids, though!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:32     Subject: Immersion Programs
I have to say, Bethune...you have obviously made it to the big leagues of charter schools! Congrats. You know you are a "good school" now if DCUM is bashing you.

Congrats to those who are attending Bethune!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:28     Subject: Immersion Programs
Do any DC school have 50/50 model. Even the well established DCPS dual language schools don't.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:27     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:They'd have to get rid of some of their black teachers and replace them with Spanish-speakers if they expand the program. This won't likely go over too well.


There are black spanish-speakers.

Or do you mean AA teachers?
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:26     Subject: Immersion Programs
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Anonymous wrote:At what point is "too late" to enter the program? I know at Bethune they don't accept new students after 3rd grade.


Bethune does accept children after the 3rd grade.



Odd, the principal told me at the tour they didn't accept children after the 3rd grade because of the language. Good to know! I'll check again.


The pricipal mentioned that using their model many kids no longer retain the Spanish language.


I wonder why they get rid of the immersion (vs. keeping it through the years). Good to know.


They have always followed this model since 2003, when they first began in Ward 7.


Meaning, why not keep immersion model from PS3-8.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:20     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:^^ Just like we said, your bullshit doesn't pass the smell test. Duh! Bethune's model of a spanish class starting in 3rd or whatever is not supported in the research about bilingual ed. If they opted to switch to the dual language 50/50 model, they would have no need for many of their English language teachers and a higher need for Spanish speakers. The English only folks would be canned. That's common sense. Many of the English folks are African American. For a school serving mainly African Americans and in an environment where we're seeing less and less AAs, there would be a firestorm if black teachers got canned in favor of Spanish speakers. DUH!

Please stop posting as if you have any knowledge about the school whatsoever. You are obviously posting directly from your ass.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:19     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'd have to get rid of some of their black teachers and replace them with Spanish-speakers if they expand the program. This won't likely go over too well.


Because, like, everyone knows you can't possibly be both Black and speak Spanish!

Start naming these black hispanohablantes at Bethune.... Waiting... Like we thought- LIARS!!!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:17     Subject: Immersion Programs
^^ Just like we said, your bullshit doesn't pass the smell test. Duh! Bethune's model of a spanish class starting in 3rd or whatever is not supported in the research about bilingual ed. If they opted to switch to the dual language 50/50 model, they would have no need for many of their English language teachers and a higher need for Spanish speakers. The English only folks would be canned. That's common sense. Many of the English folks are African American. For a school serving mainly African Americans and in an environment where we're seeing less and less AAs, there would be a firestorm if black teachers got canned in favor of Spanish speakers. DUH!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:14     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:They'd have to get rid of some of their black teachers and replace them with Spanish-speakers if they expand the program. This won't likely go over too well.


Because, like, everyone knows you can't possibly be both Black and speak Spanish!
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 15:01     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:^^ So, you're saying that if the school opted to follow a dual language model (50-50), which is the standard at most bilingual schools, they would be able to keep the same teachers? So their minority instructors also speak Spanish, so there would be a seamlesss transition? This doesn't pass the smell test. Sorry.

No, I'm saying that they're not choosing only black teachers, and they're not tailoring their curriculum to please the teachers. Duh.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 14:55     Subject: Immersion Programs
^^ So, you're saying that if the school opted to follow a dual language model (50-50), which is the standard at most bilingual schools, they would be able to keep the same teachers? So their minority instructors also speak Spanish, so there would be a seamlesss transition? This doesn't pass the smell test. Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 14:47     Subject: Immersion Programs
Anonymous wrote:They'd have to get rid of some of their black teachers and replace them with Spanish-speakers if they expand the program. This won't likely go over too well.

Oh, shut it. Bethune teaching staff is very, very diverse, much more so than the student body. Lots of native Spanish speakers. I believe they switch to Spanish classes versus immersion because those kids are in the testing years. Sad, but not unusual for DC to have the test become the focus.
Anonymous
Post 09/09/2013 14:45     Subject: Immersion Programs
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Anonymous wrote:The problem is getting in, in the first place. It's all by lottery, they all give preferences to siblings and have 100s on their waitlists.

Yu Ying does not accept new students after 2nd although there has been rumors that they may change this to 1st. There is also a possibility that they'll add 100% Mandarin preK3 soon.


I saw their school news letter that they were considering this. Interesting to 100% mandarin for PS3 and PK4


It's b/c of the DC CAS. They cannot expand the Mandarin in the latter grades so the only way to get more Mandarin is to front load it. Also, many kids have younger sibs - will make it easier to have the preschool kid at the same school as the older sib.


...and PS3 is guaranteed funds for a school.


Yes, win win for all