Anonymous
Post 09/11/2013 19:40     Subject: New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is so much bullshit. They increased the weight of SAT scores? I don't need USNWR to tell me which schools have students with the highest SAT scores; that information is readily available. How is that value-added?

Further, given the correlation between SAT scores and family incomes, what these new rankings will be telling us is which schools have the wealthiest students.

And, there is no correlation between educational quality and selectivity at the college level. None. So knowing where all the smart wealthy kids go to school tells you nothing about whether they are getting a good education there.

This emperor has no clothes.


UG is not about getting a good education though, it is about getting the right credentials to have doors open up to you. Whether it is through strong OCI, alum base, industry/location ties, etc.

If i wanted an education, I coud save a shitload of money like Good Will Hunting and use a public or state library.

College is about credential-ism and networking for the most part at the UG level.

And that's why rankings matter, unfortunately.


You can only say you can get an equivalent education if you went to a library if the school you attended sucked. There are schools for tools who just want to network and get "good credentials" and then there are schools for scholars. Glad DC wants the latter.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2013 19:23     Subject: New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Anonymous wrote:This is so much bullshit. They increased the weight of SAT scores? I don't need USNWR to tell me which schools have students with the highest SAT scores; that information is readily available. How is that value-added?

Further, given the correlation between SAT scores and family incomes, what these new rankings will be telling us is which schools have the wealthiest students.

And, there is no correlation between educational quality and selectivity at the college level. None. So knowing where all the smart wealthy kids go to school tells you nothing about whether they are getting a good education there.

This emperor has no clothes.


UG is not about getting a good education though, it is about getting the right credentials to have doors open up to you. Whether it is through strong OCI, alum base, industry/location ties, etc.

If i wanted an education, I coud save a shitload of money like Good Will Hunting and use a public or state library.

College is about credential-ism and networking for the most part at the UG level.

And that's why rankings matter, unfortunately.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2013 19:21     Subject: Re:New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Anonymous wrote:Princeton was #1 before and it's still #1. Nice that it can survive a methodology change and still end up on top.


You sound like you actually take the U.S. News rankings seriously.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2013 19:19     Subject: New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Anonymous wrote:This is so much bullshit. They increased the weight of SAT scores? I don't need USNWR to tell me which schools have students with the highest SAT scores; that information is readily available. How is that value-added?

Further, given the correlation between SAT scores and family incomes, what these new rankings will be telling us is which schools have the wealthiest students.

And, there is no correlation between educational quality and selectivity at the college level. None. So knowing where all the smart wealthy kids go to school tells you nothing about whether they are getting a good education there.

This emperor has no clothes.


Could not agree with you more. Why is a pathetic, second rate, irrelevant rag in a dying industry determining the "rank" of colleges? Not sour grapes either, my kids are little.
Anonymous
Post 09/11/2013 19:14     Subject: New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
JHU made a decent jump it seems.

Honestly, the best rankings IMO are looking at yield %

and crossadmit data....i.e.

JHU is ranked higher than Brown but i am pretty confident if a student that got into both had to pick, Brown is going to be the choice over 60-70% of the time.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2013 22:28     Subject: New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Surprised to see Northeastern as a top 50 school
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2013 19:51     Subject: Re:New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Anonymous wrote:How much did Penn State pay to have their ranking jump so high? Gross

Yeah, I have to say I was disgusted to see PSU make the greatest leap of all colleges. Give me a break. The rankings punish other colleges for misrepresenting a small fraction of test data (by removing them from the rankings all together) and yet PSU gets a big boost when its administration looks the other way when it comes to the god that is football? Yuck. Signed, previously a PSU booster but no more.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2013 19:47     Subject: Re:New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
Princeton was #1 before and it's still #1. Nice that it can survive a methodology change and still end up on top.
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2013 10:28     Subject: Re:New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
How much did Penn State pay to have their ranking jump so high? Gross
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2013 09:12     Subject: New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
They should remove penn state for raping children
Anonymous
Post 09/10/2013 09:10     Subject: Re:New Methodology for US News rankings to be released on Tuesday
It looked pretty much the same to me, not much movement in the top 25 on either list. Wasn't Wake already in the top 25? Or maybe 26th? Lots of ties. Now to get DC to finish the common app-that's where I need a new methodology.