Is the non-verbal portion given more weight in admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:It's strange to me that the test for admission to
a HGC has a math part even though the curriculum doesn't include math. Only a couple of kids in my child's 4th grade class are in grade 4 math as a result.

Well, it's basically meant to be an IQ test, so they cover everything.

Interesting. I assumed that the non-verbal portion was like an IQ test but didn't realize that the quantitative and verbal sections were also like an IQ test.

HGC admission test has the following component -
1) Non-verbal was like an IQ (somewhat like Raven)
2) Math was word-problems and simple calculations (stuff covered in regular school in 2nd grade)
3) English - Reading comprehension (simple passages and answering questions based on it) and analogies (hand is to glove, as foot is to ...?)


HGC Math curriculum for 4th grade is 2.0 curriculum from this year. They have the Math 4 and Math 4/5. It is not super accelerated like previous years, however it is enriched. So they have projects etc. that ties in with the integrated curriculum and the enriched instruction.

I am not seeing Math worksheets (and thank God for that!) but "Problem of the Week" worksheet are being sent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's strange to me that the test for admission to
a HGC has a math part even though the curriculum doesn't include math. Only a couple of kids in my child's 4th grade class are in grade 4 math as a result.

Well, it's basically meant to be an IQ test, so they cover everything.

Interesting. I assumed that the non-verbal portion was like an IQ test but didn't realize that the quantitative and verbal sections were also like an IQ test.

Anonymous wrote:It's strange to me that the test for admission to
a HGC has a math part even though the curriculum doesn't include math. Only a couple of kids in my child's 4th grade class are in grade 4 math as a result.

Well, it's basically meant to be an IQ test, so they cover everything.

It's strange to me that the test for admission to
a HGC has a math part even though the curriculum doesn't include math. Only a couple of kids in my child's 4th grade class are in grade 4 math as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:The HGC curriculum doesn't include math.

It's interesting you say that. At my childs HGC, the kids were split into two math classes. The "lower" class was accelerated a year, and took a class that covered both 5th and 6th in one year. The "upper" math class was accelerated two years and took a class that covered 6th and 7th in one year. In 5th now, the one class is taking 7th grade math and the other class is taking 8th grade math. Now the HGC might not officially cover math, but it's pretty clear that these kids were doing a vastly different curriculum than the normal school. Of course, this was before the 2.0 changes. I'd be interested in seeing how they're handling the 4th grade this year.

The HGC curriculum doesn't (and didn't) include math because the HGC kids were taking the same math as everybody else -- just not on the same schedule. For example, before 2.0, a fourth-grader at HGC might have taken Math 6, but it was the same Math 6. So, accelerated, yes; different curriculum, no.

Now the HGC kids in fourth grade are taking either Math 4 or Math 4/5, just like all the other fourth-graders. (The HGC kids in fifth grade are not on the 2.0 schedule, at least not at my HGC.) I assume that they will get enrichment, but non-HGC kids are also supposed to get enrichment as part of in-class differentiation.

OK, gotcha. So the core curriculum is the same, albeit 2-3 year accelerated. The extra math they did like math olympiads were enrichment.

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Anonymous wrote:The HGC curriculum doesn't include math.

It's interesting you say that. At my childs HGC, the kids were split into two math classes. The "lower" class was accelerated a year, and took a class that covered both 5th and 6th in one year. The "upper" math class was accelerated two years and took a class that covered 6th and 7th in one year. In 5th now, the one class is taking 7th grade math and the other class is taking 8th grade math. Now the HGC might not officially cover math, but it's pretty clear that these kids were doing a vastly different curriculum than the normal school. Of course, this was before the 2.0 changes. I'd be interested in seeing how they're handling the 4th grade this year.

The HGC curriculum doesn't (and didn't) include math because the HGC kids were taking the same math as everybody else -- just not on the same schedule. For example, before 2.0, a fourth-grader at HGC might have taken Math 6, but it was the same Math 6. So, accelerated, yes; different curriculum, no.

Now the HGC kids in fourth grade are taking either Math 4 or Math 4/5, just like all the other fourth-graders. (The HGC kids in fifth grade are not on the 2.0 schedule, at least not at my HGC.) I assume that they will get enrichment, but non-HGC kids are also supposed to get enrichment as part of in-class differentiation.

Anonymous wrote:The HGC curriculum doesn't include math.

It's interesting you say that. At my childs HGC, the kids were split into two math classes. The "lower" class was accelerated a year, and took a class that covered both 5th and 6th in one year. The "upper" math class was accelerated two years and took a class that covered 6th and 7th in one year. In 5th now, the one class is taking 7th grade math and the other class is taking 8th grade math. Now the HGC might not officially cover math, but it's pretty clear that these kids were doing a vastly different curriculum than the normal school. Of course, this was before the 2.0 changes. I'd be interested in seeing how they're handling the 4th grade this year.

The HGC curriculum doesn't include math.

^^HGC. HCG is when you're pregnant.

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Anonymous wrote:My child has had very little homework in HGC class.

Perhaps your child is in the low HGC class . . .

ok...you are baiting the pp!

My experience as a mom and aunt of a handful of HGC kids have been that girls are a little bit more organized and so this part may come easier to them than boys. So it may create a feeling of "more homework" or "less homework" for different parents in different HGCs, based on how their child and they are coping with it. All HGC pretty much follow the same curriculum.

I have two friends with kids in two different HCGs. They appear to be very different. One really focuses on science and math and the other on ELA. Do they specialize depending upon test results?

Different HGCs have different philosophies about homework just as different schools have different philosophies.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child has had very little homework in HGC class.

Perhaps your child is in the low HGC class . . .

ok...you are baiting the pp!

My experience as a mom and aunt of a handful of HGC kids have been that girls are a little bit more organized and so this part may come easier to them than boys. So it may create a feeling of "more homework" or "less homework" for different parents in different HGCs, based on how their child and they are coping with it. All HGC pretty much follow the same curriculum.

Anonymous wrote:My child has had very little homework in HGC class.

Perhaps your child is in the low HGC class . . .

Anonymous wrote:My child's HGC says that they don't believe in overloading the kids with homework and they expect that they will finish during class time (other than projects).

As I mentioned...it is not that the HGC is giving loads of worksheets...it is just that the child needs to learn how to break down the assignments into smaller chunks...keep a track of tasks and an eye on when they have to submit their work. So...these are great skills for them to learn. And by far the most challenging part of HGC. As far as the classroom is concerned...he is actually enjoying all the instruction, his teachers and classmates.