Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:44     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:tip: If you can not bend over to pick something up, your dress is to short.

tip: don't schedule a meeting if I already have something on my calendar during that time


Don't schedule meetings at 8 AM or 4 PM. Unless it's an emergency. And really, it never is.


WTH not? 4 is too late for a meeting? Do you work for the federal govt or something? Our workday is 8 until 6:30 or 7. Can't imagine not having meetings at or after 4 pm.


No, in the private sector. Sucks for you though. No 11-hour days required here!


I get paid well to work those hours. Doesn't suck for me.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:43     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the OP would be in for a rude awakening if she worked at a company where seniority by longevity wasn't the norm. That 25 year old could then be your boss within five years. After a basic threshold, age and experience are not necessarily conducive to results and effectiveness.


Mental acuity starts declining at 40. Also, tech companies tend to be on the young side. And I've read that ageism is rampant in Mexico-you're considered old by the time you're in your late twenties.


Don't work for a tech company, and my mental acuity is just fine, thanks.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:42     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:tip: If you can not bend over to pick something up, your dress is to short.

tip: don't schedule a meeting if I already have something on my calendar during that time


Don't schedule meetings at 8 AM or 4 PM. Unless it's an emergency. And really, it never is.


WTH not? 4 is too late for a meeting? Do you work for the federal govt or something? Our workday is 8 until 6:30 or 7. Can't imagine not having meetings at or after 4 pm.


No, in the private sector. Sucks for you though. No 11-hour days required here!
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:42     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the OP would be in for a rude awakening if she worked at a company where seniority by longevity wasn't the norm. That 25 year old could then be your boss within five years. After a basic threshold, age and experience are not necessarily conducive to results and effectiveness.


OP here. I'm senior because I know my stuff and because I'm effective. Oh, and let me add: you want to meet with, you check my Outlook calendar and invite me. Why should I be your secretary?

Ha yeah at being a BITCH!
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:42     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't ask a more senior colleague for information you yourself can track down easily. It makes you look lazy, uninformed and like someone who doesn't realize her time is less valuable than her senior colleagues' time.


I agree with this somewhat BUT dont be one of those assholes who will not help out with a simple answer once in a while. Its just rude.


If you need me to approve something, prepare for it. In other words, read the company policy that concerns the issue. Discuss with your immediate management before bringing it to me.

PS - I get paid more because my time is more valuable. Only someone under 25 would think their time is as valuable as a vice president's.


WOW OP you are a total bitch. Its very clear from your nasty responses that you think you are entitled to treat subordinates like trash. I hope HR comes after your ass one day. Karma!


They're not subordinates, just more junior colleagues.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:41     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP would be in for a rude awakening if she worked at a company where seniority by longevity wasn't the norm. That 25 year old could then be your boss within five years. After a basic threshold, age and experience are not necessarily conducive to results and effectiveness.


OP here. I'm senior because I know my stuff and because I'm effective. Oh, and let me add: you want to meet with, you check my Outlook calendar and invite me. Why should I be your secretary?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:39     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP would be in for a rude awakening if she worked at a company where seniority by longevity wasn't the norm. That 25 year old could then be your boss within five years. After a basic threshold, age and experience are not necessarily conducive to results and effectiveness.


Mental acuity starts declining at 40. Also, tech companies tend to be on the young side. And I've read that ageism is rampant in Mexico-you're considered old by the time you're in your late twenties.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:39     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:tip: If you can not bend over to pick something up, your dress is to short.

tip: don't schedule a meeting if I already have something on my calendar during that time


Don't schedule meetings at 8 AM or 4 PM. Unless it's an emergency. And really, it never is.


WTH not? 4 is too late for a meeting? Do you work for the federal govt or something? Our workday is 8 until 6:30 or 7. Can't imagine not having meetings at or after 4 pm.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:37     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tips for colleagues -
If I'm looking for something you know off the top of your head, why wouldn't I utilize you as a resource? Seems like a much better use of time if you're right there and I ask you for something/information.

Just a thought!


Because it makes you seem lazy.


No, it's a use of a good resource. If you don't think of yourself as a good resource for a younger colleague, you're a sourpuss and need to get over yourself. It doesn't do anyone any good to resource horde. Of course, if it's something the employee has specifically been given or shown how to do, that's different.
I'm the lowest on the totem pole and people ask me to find things ALL the time that are public information. They sometimes go, "wow, that was fast!" yes, it is the most recent press release on the Senator's web site, but since you're too old to know how the internet works (or you're on a powertrip and like tasking people), you had me find it. In the time it took you to tell me what you were looking for, old person, you could have already had it.

it works both ways!

Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:36     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't ask a more senior colleague for information you yourself can track down easily. It makes you look lazy, uninformed and like someone who doesn't realize her time is less valuable than her senior colleagues' time.


I agree with this somewhat BUT dont be one of those assholes who will not help out with a simple answer once in a while. Its just rude.


If you need me to approve something, prepare for it. In other words, read the company policy that concerns the issue. Discuss with your immediate management before bringing it to me.

PS - I get paid more because my time is more valuable. Only someone under 25 would think their time is as valuable as a vice president's.


WOW OP you are a total bitch. Its very clear from your nasty responses that you think you are entitled to treat subordinates like trash. I hope HR comes after your ass one day. Karma!
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:35     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

I think the OP would be in for a rude awakening if she worked at a company where seniority by longevity wasn't the norm. That 25 year old could then be your boss within five years. After a basic threshold, age and experience are not necessarily conducive to results and effectiveness.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:35     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't ask a more senior colleague for information you yourself can track down easily. It makes you look lazy, uninformed and like someone who doesn't realize her time is less valuable than her senior colleagues' time.


I agree with this somewhat BUT dont be one of those assholes who will not help out with a simple answer once in a while. Its just rude.


If you need me to approve something, prepare for it. In other words, read the company policy that concerns the issue. Discuss with your immediate management before bringing it to me.

PS - I get paid more because my time is more valuable. Only someone under 25 would think their time is as valuable as a vice president's.


I posted earlier in this thread. I'm neither 25 or 55, and am director-level. It would be great if our VP-level staff would actually read a three-sentence email thoroughly before responding with a question that is answered in the first line of said email. I'm sure their time is "more valuable" than anyone's, yet they waste an inordinate amount of everyone's time (and their own!) by being "too important" for just about everything.

Not accusing you of doing this. Just more of a general observation/rant.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:34     Subject: Re:Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't spend all your time trying to be young and cool. You will never be young again and you were never cool in the first place.


Really mature. What is this, middle school?


Yes, for some immature old colleagues.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:32     Subject: Re:Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:Don't spend all your time trying to be young and cool. You will never be young again and you were never cool in the first place.


Really mature. What is this, middle school?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2013 15:30     Subject: Tips to my younger colleagues

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't ask a more senior colleague for information you yourself can track down easily. It makes you look lazy, uninformed and like someone who doesn't realize her time is less valuable than her senior colleagues' time.


This!!! Why is her time less valuable? Because you get paid more?


Yes.


Yes, not more valuable in an absolute sense -- we are all just as valuable as human beings. However, in terms of workplace capital, you bet that the senior employee generally is more valuable. Simple economics.