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Anonymous wrote:So you still have some frozen children out here? Or did you donate?

We wound up using all of our frozen embryos trying to have our second child. We would have tried for a third child if any embryos remained, and then would have donated via a program out IVF doctor works with. We were very conservative in the number of eggs fertilized, not wanting to risk creating an abundance of embryos.

So you still have some frozen children out here? Or did you donate?

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am anti-abortion/pro-life, and am Catholic. I don't agree with the church's teachings on all issues (such as the prohibition on homosexual activity), and do not think my views on abortion is based solely on church doctrine. For me, it's more about valuing and respecting human life. I'm also opposed to the death penalty, for similar reasons. [/quote]

So do you then want a ban on IVF? Because that would be the result.[/quote]

I think thats a hood question. No, I would not want to ban IVF. I actually used IVF. I just made sure my husband and I were in agreement that we would use (or freeze and later used) or donate for implantation all embryos created. We now have two children, one from a fresh and one from a frozen embryo.

I didn't conceive by IVF and frankly wouldn't have done so, so your statement makes no sense. If I had fertility issues I would have gone straight to adoption. DH and I always planned to adopt and having a biological child wasn't a huge issue for us but giving birth and adopting both opened my eyes to issues I hadn't spent too much time analyzing. You really are stretching for a way out of your bitchy rant. Nice try, but still a fail.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am anti-abortion/pro-life, and am Catholic. I don't agree with the church's teachings on all issues (such as the prohibition on homosexual activity), and do not think my views on abortion is based solely on church doctrine. For me, it's more about valuing and respecting human life. I'm also opposed to the death penalty, for similar reasons. [/quote]

So do you then want a ban on IVF? Because that would be the result.[/quote]

But there would be so many more (white, healthy) babies out there ready to adopt.

Please.

Here's a question: Are any of the mutilated fetuses on your mile-high Conn Ave posters BLACK? HISPANIC? OBVIOUSLY DISABLED IN ANY WAY?

Yeah. No. Didn't think so. Cause those really aren't the blobs of cells you care about, are they?

[quote=Anonymous]Loosely Raised Methodist but when no real focus on faith in the home--former pro-choice but became pro-life after giving birth to one child and adopting another--really made me think long and hard about the value of life (e.g., would the world be a better place if my DS birth mom had aborted this amazing kid, did his life have no value, is it teally own about ghe rights of the mother or do we need to think about the rights of the other life, etc) and really thinking about the stage of development when a fetus is aborted. I would say that when I was uninformed I was pro-choice but when I became informed I became pro-life.[/quote]

Oh please, by your own reasoning you'd take the opposite position if you'd conceived by IVF and wanted to unfreeze another embryo.

[quote=Anonymous]I am anti-abortion/pro-life, and am Catholic. I don't agree with the church's teachings on all issues (such as the prohibition on homosexual activity), and do not think my views on abortion is based solely on church doctrine. For me, it's more about valuing and respecting human life. I'm also opposed to the death penalty, for similar reasons. [/quote]

So do you then want a ban on IVF? Because that would be the result.

What is disgusting is assuming that everyone who adopts does so out of infertility. You bitch if proliferation don't do anything for babies and then you bitch if they do. Most of the people that I know who adopted did no do so because of infertility. Your hate is deplorable.

My womb works just fine. I adopted because I knew there were kids without families to love and raise them. Bitch!

Oh, please do not argue that women who have wombs that work should be employing them to produce kids for those who don't.

That's just slavery and it's disgusting.

Loosely Raised Methodist but when no real focus on faith in the home--former pro-choice but became pro-life after giving birth to one child and adopting another--really made me think long and hard about the value of life (e.g., would the world be a better place if my DS birth mom had aborted this amazing kid, did his life have no value, is it teally own about ghe rights of the mother or do we need to think about the rights of the other life, etc) and really thinking about the stage of development when a fetus is aborted. I would say that when I was uninformed I was pro-choice but when I became informed I became pro-life.

Christian.. I am anti abortion, anti death penalty .. Anti slavery and anti concentration camp.

I agree with abortions being illegal after the first trimester unless harmful to either.

I'm a semi practicing Muslim.

Sadly, I attend (rather infrequently) my neighborhood parish which is super conservative and soul crushingly boring. I can't name it because I'd out myself. I occasionally go back to my parents' parish.

I have yet to find a local parish run by priests who are more committed to social justice and inspiring people to do good as opposed to all the ones who insist upon spewing anti everything rhetoric.