Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 22:26     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Oh, I misread the table. 12.5% eligible (accepted to the centers) but only 8.5% are actually attending.


At least one of the School Board members (and I cannot recall which one) raised a question about the number (or perhaps it was percentage -- I cannot clearly recall) of students declining Center placement. I believe FCPS staff has been asked to provide data on that, probably for the fall work session.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 22:22     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP: Wrong. 50% that apply, not 50% of all second graders.


I am not referring to the total of those that are in the 2nd grade pool, apply or refer.

The number of students found Center eligible each year (which means of all the students that are in the 2nd grade pool, plus those that apply/refer in 2nd through 7th grades, only those that are ultimately found Center eligible by the central selection committee) is comprised of roughly 50% 2nd grade students and roughly 50% 3rd through 7th grade students.


If it is 50/50, then it means about 12.5% of second graders found eligible this year (1623/13,000), and about 8.5% accepted into center (1101/13,000).


Not sure where you are getting the denominator from. Do you have some way to add in the number of private school 2nd graders to the FCPS 2nd grade number?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 22:18     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
For all the complaints about high proportion of Asian kids, all schools have a much higher proportion of Whites!
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 22:17     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP: Wrong. 50% that apply, not 50% of all second graders.


I am not referring to the total of those that are in the 2nd grade pool, apply or refer.

The number of students found Center eligible each year (which means of all the students that are in the 2nd grade pool, plus those that apply/refer in 2nd through 7th grades, only those that are ultimately found Center eligible by the central selection committee) is comprised of roughly 50% 2nd grade students and roughly 50% 3rd through 7th grade students.


If it is 50/50, then it means about 12.5% of second graders found eligible this year (1623/13,000), and about 8.5% accepted into center (1101/13,000).


Oh, I misread the table. 12.5% eligible (accepted to the centers) but only 8.5% are actually attending.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 22:14     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP: Wrong. 50% that apply, not 50% of all second graders.


I am not referring to the total of those that are in the 2nd grade pool, apply or refer.

The number of students found Center eligible each year (which means of all the students that are in the 2nd grade pool, plus those that apply/refer in 2nd through 7th grades, only those that are ultimately found Center eligible by the central selection committee) is comprised of roughly 50% 2nd grade students and roughly 50% 3rd through 7th grade students.


If it is 50/50, then it means about 12.5% of second graders found eligible this year (1623/13,000), and about 8.5% accepted into center (1101/13,000).
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 20:49     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
I am 100 percent surprised by this.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 19:19     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:PP: Wrong. 50% that apply, not 50% of all second graders.


I am not referring to the total of those that are in the 2nd grade pool, apply or refer.

The number of students found Center eligible each year (which means of all the students that are in the 2nd grade pool, plus those that apply/refer in 2nd through 7th grades, only those that are ultimately found Center eligible by the central selection committee) is comprised of roughly 50% 2nd grade students and roughly 50% 3rd through 7th grade students.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 16:58     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
PP: Wrong. 50% that apply, not 50% of all second graders.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 15:40     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:I think, by reverse engineering, it the total number of FCPS students found eligible divided by population in 3-8 not receiving level iv services.

It is a reall misleading statistic, because a the majority of applicants are in grade 2.

I would argue it borders on fradualent use of statistics to make it look like FCPS AAP is more selective than it is.



The number of students found Center eligible each year is comprised of roughly 50% 2nd grade students and roughly 50% 3rd through 7th grade students.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 15:02     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think, by reverse engineering, it the total number of FCPS students found eligible divided by population in 3-8 not receiving level iv services.

It is a reall misleading statistic, because a the majority of applicants are in grade 2.

I would argue it borders on fradualent use of statistics to make it look like FCPS AAP is more selective than it is.



Thanks! Agreed, it is a misleading stat.


I agree too. It is remarkable the games they play with these numbers. it's like you never see the same figure for the same period of time twice.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 13:06     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:I think, by reverse engineering, it the total number of FCPS students found eligible divided by population in 3-8 not receiving level iv services.

It is a reall misleading statistic, because a the majority of applicants are in grade 2.

I would argue it borders on fradualent use of statistics to make it look like FCPS AAP is more selective than it is.



Thanks! Agreed, it is a misleading stat.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 12:55     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
I think, by reverse engineering, it the total number of FCPS students found eligible divided by population in 3-8 not receiving level iv services.

It is a reall misleading statistic, because a the majority of applicants are in grade 2.

I would argue it borders on fradualent use of statistics to make it look like FCPS AAP is more selective than it is.

Anonymous
Post 07/22/2013 12:44     Subject: Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Last year's 3rd grade AAP enrollment was open, obviously. Will have to see what this year is like. My oldest is in 6th and that was the last year that AAP had actual tough requirements.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Read the statistics on slide 12, precious!

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/99LQQB6A6292/$file/FCPS%20Advanced%20Academic%20Programs%20Review.pdf


Can someone explain what the 5.3 percent eligibility for 2013-14 is based on in the above referenced document...I can't tell from the available numbers.
Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 13:31     Subject: Re:Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they get all mixed together again in HS anyway. I know of no college that look at ES and MS transcripts to see if a child was enrolled in TAG, GT or AAP.



So true. All this panic to get kids into AAP and once they get into high school (or even middle, for that matter), it makes no difference whatsoever in their high school class choices or college acceptances. Much ado over nothing.


+100


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I couldn't agree more. I have a current AAP student and three older kids, none of whom were in AAP (then GT). One is currently at TJ, the other in another high school, and the oldest is at Cornell. I don't imagine that my youngest will do any better in high school than the other three, simply because he is in AAP.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2013 10:07     Subject: Re:Any chance of taking current rising 4th graders (AAP) and retesting to send some to GE?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they get all mixed together again in HS anyway. I know of no college that look at ES and MS transcripts to see if a child was enrolled in TAG, GT or AAP.



So true. All this panic to get kids into AAP and once they get into high school (or even middle, for that matter), it makes no difference whatsoever in their high school class choices or college acceptances. Much ado over nothing.


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