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Anonymous wrote:More evidence Colvin Run polarizes it’s aap and gen ed kids/parents: for Back to School night parents of 3rd grade gen ed kids have a general presentation in the library with all the gen ed classrooms together while the aap level 4 parents go to their kids’ individual classrooms and get a closer look into their classroom and teacher. This school is rididiculous.

I can’t imagine taking such offense based on something like this. But it’s why we avoided the Langley pyramid - too many high-maintenance parents.

Our school not far from Colvin Run has all the 3rd grade classes together and then gives a small presentation during that time about the AAP program and how it is different. It's a very small part of the presentation. I agree that all kids should get some time with their teacher in their classrooms if that is the policy for some classes.

Agreed, but maybe a teacher could not be there that evening so they did a combined presentation, or they did a combined presentation before splitting off to individual classrooms, or there’s some other explanation. Jumping to the conclusion that one is getting short-changed seems premature so early in the school year.

This (the bolded). I have a 3rd grader at Colvin Run and as of yesterday, his teacher was planning to have parents in the classroom. I suspect a teacher couldn't be there so they combined the classes together. I previously had kids in grades 4-6 and with the exception of one time, parents met in the classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:More evidence Colvin Run polarizes it’s aap and gen ed kids/parents: for Back to School night parents of 3rd grade gen ed kids have a general presentation in the library with all the gen ed classrooms together while the aap level 4 parents go to their kids’ individual classrooms and get a closer look into their classroom and teacher. This school is rididiculous.

I can’t imagine taking such offense based on something like this. But it’s why we avoided the Langley pyramid - too many high-maintenance parents.

Our school not far from Colvin Run has all the 3rd grade classes together and then gives a small presentation during that time about the AAP program and how it is different. It's a very small part of the presentation. I agree that all kids should get some time with their teacher in their classrooms if that is the policy for some classes.

Agreed, but maybe a teacher could not be there that evening so they did a combined presentation, or they did a combined presentation before splitting off to individual classrooms, or there’s some other explanation. Jumping to the conclusion that one is getting short-changed seems premature so early in the school year.

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Anonymous wrote:More evidence Colvin Run polarizes it’s aap and gen ed kids/parents: for Back to School night parents of 3rd grade gen ed kids have a general presentation in the library with all the gen ed classrooms together while the aap level 4 parents go to their kids’ individual classrooms and get a closer look into their classroom and teacher. This school is rididiculous.

I can’t imagine taking such offense based on something like this. But it’s why we avoided the Langley pyramid - too many high-maintenance parents.

Our school not far from Colvin Run has all the 3rd grade classes together and then gives a small presentation during that time about the AAP program and how it is different. It's a very small part of the presentation. I agree that all kids should get some time with their teacher in their classrooms if that is the policy for some classes.

Anonymous wrote:More evidence Colvin Run polarizes it’s aap and gen ed kids/parents: for Back to School night parents of 3rd grade gen ed kids have a general presentation in the library with all the gen ed classrooms together while the aap level 4 parents go to their kids’ individual classrooms and get a closer look into their classroom and teacher. This school is rididiculous.

I can’t imagine taking such offense based on something like this. But it’s why we avoided the Langley pyramid - too many high-maintenance parents.

More evidence Colvin Run polarizes it’s aap and gen ed kids/parents: for Back to School night parents of 3rd grade gen ed kids have a general presentation in the library with all the gen ed classrooms together while the aap level 4 parents go to their kids’ individual classrooms and get a closer look into their classroom and teacher. This school is rididiculous.

Anonymous wrote:These comments are the reason the school publishes the AAP FAQs each year, to correct these misconceptions. (website under Academics)

Also on their website, “Colvin Run is a unique school in that we believe all students can and should access Level IV curriculum. Aside from our commitment to all students learning and working with the 9 critical and creative thinking strategies, all classrooms teach with units and resources that one might find in a Level IV classroom.”

Colvin Run is a Level IV Center. A Level IV Center has different classrooms for Level IV kids. That’s the model. It has nothing to do with the principal. It is no mistake the classes mix for math, specials, recess, lunch, and some projects, so the kids can still be with kids outside their classrooms.

For years, the school has purchased AAP curriculum used in the Gen Ed classrooms just like the Level IV classrooms because they ‘believe ALL students can and should access it.’

This. I have/had gen ed kids at Colvin Run and they were able to take Level IV courses. My kids never felt maligned in any way by the divide, and they moved on to Cooper (which is also a center now) with ease. I am not on the PTO, nor do I benefit from any kind of favoritism (I WOHM and rarely get face time at the school). When my youngest started Kindergarten, his friend groups were mixed up every year anyway so the divide in 3rd grade was no big deal.

To the OP: I have had three kids cycle in or out of Colvin Run in the last three years (all gen ed students), and it's been fine. We really love the school.

These comments are the reason the school publishes the AAP FAQs each year, to correct these misconceptions. (website under Academics)

Also on their website, “Colvin Run is a unique school in that we believe all students can and should access Level IV curriculum. Aside from our commitment to all students learning and working with the 9 critical and creative thinking strategies, all classrooms teach with units and resources that one might find in a Level IV classroom.”

Colvin Run is a Level IV Center. A Level IV Center has different classrooms for Level IV kids. That’s the model. It has nothing to do with the principal. It is no mistake the classes mix for math, specials, recess, lunch, and some projects, so the kids can still be with kids outside their classrooms.

For years, the school has purchased AAP curriculum used in the Gen Ed classrooms just like the Level IV classrooms because they ‘believe ALL students can and should access it.’

Anonymous wrote:Blaming ignorance on technology is weak. If anything, a smart device should help you spell correctly.

Speaking of trolls...

[quote=Anonymous]I have twins, one in aap and one in gen ed and I 100% agree with the posters talking about the strong divide at this school. Both kids had the same excellent grades in 2nd and earlier years. Both are bright and motivated. However, my one child is more outgoing (which teachers tend to find favorable) and just tests better on the standardized tests and ended up getting into aap. I see the difference in personal attention/workload they get and know first hand that my child in gen ed can easily handle the aap work as well as my other child. I believe the school shouldn’t differentiate between aap and gen ed and give all kids the same work and expectations. All kids will rise to expectations if given the chance. Unfortunately, this school does not give gen ed kids who just may not test well a well-deserved chance. Btw- a lot of parents (not me) at this school hire tutors for the kids starting in preschool. So, their kids are not necessarily smarter. They just have been pushed to learn concepts earlier. I’m sure of the reasoning behind this. These are the parents who have their kids study for standardized tests. I see a lot of very bright, exceptional kids in gen ed who actually should technically be in aap because of their high level of thinking and ability to grasp concepts quickly, but who get overlooked by the teachers because they don’t fit the typical mold. [/quote]

+100 to PP and the other PPs who note the divide at CRES. And to the idiot poster who calls people "trolls" if they dare to express a negative experience with CRES - grow up. I completely agree that this school leaves a LOT to be desired when it comes to the very obvious segregation of AAP and GE students. The parents who "love" the principal are sycophants who relish the idea that their kids are in AAP. The principal is extremely supportive of that program and those kids. We sent three kids through this school, and were so disgusted by the time our fourth came along, that we chose private school for that child. What a difference - night and day. Complete respect for ALL kids, and no ridiculous labeling. I only wish we had done the same for our three older children. They would have had a much happier elementary school experience somewhere else (i.e. somewhere without AAP).

I have twins, one in aap and one in gen ed and I 100% agree with the posters talking about the strong divide at this school. Both kids had the same excellent grades in 2nd and earlier years. Both are bright and motivated. However, my one child is more outgoing (which teachers tend to find favorable) and just tests better on the standardized tests and ended up getting into aap. I see the difference in personal attention/workload they get and know first hand that my child in gen ed can easily handle the aap work as well as my other child. I believe the school shouldn’t differentiate between aap and gen ed and give all kids the same work and expectations. All kids will rise to expectations if given the chance. Unfortunately, this school does not give gen ed kids who just may not test well a well-deserved chance. Btw- a lot of parents (not me) at this school hire tutors for the kids starting in preschool. So, their kids are not necessarily smarter. They just have been pushed to learn concepts earlier. I’m sure of the reasoning behind this. These are the parents who have their kids study for standardized tests. I see a lot of very bright, exceptional kids in gen ed who actually should technically be in aap because of their high level of thinking and ability to grasp concepts quickly, but who get overlooked by the teachers because they don’t fit the typical mold.

Blaming ignorance on technology is weak. If anything, a smart device should help you spell correctly.

It’s called “ autocorrect fail”. Just because people have different opinions from you they are not trolls. Perhaps, you can add an opinion of actual substance.

[quote=Anonymous]The previous poster who says everyone loves the principle is probably a new parent who hasn’t had much interaction besides the superficial greetings or is a pto member who received “benefits” from the principle himself because that’s no secret that happens. There are a lot of seasoned parents who really do not appreciate the way this current principle has put such a major focus on aap level 4 and how he has forgotten the gen ed kids who are equally as smart/capable. The truth is that the aap classes do get better/more motivated teachers in general who go the extra mile than the gen ed class teachers who don’t really care about your kid. [/quote]

Seriously doubt you are even at Colvin Run, as parents there generally are well educated and know the difference between “principal” and “principle.” Troll fail.

The previous poster who says everyone loves the principle is probably a new parent who hasn’t had much interaction besides the superficial greetings or is a pto member who received “benefits” from the principle himself because that’s no secret that happens. There are a lot of seasoned parents who really do not appreciate the way this current principle has put such a major focus on aap level 4 and how he has forgotten the gen ed kids who are equally as smart/capable. The truth is that the aap classes do get better/more motivated teachers in general who go the extra mile than the gen ed class teachers who don’t really care about your kid.

Colvin Run parent here with one is aap and one in gen ed. There is definitely concern of divisiveness at this school with the AAP kids thinking they are smarter, worthier of a better education. Parents of aap kids fuel the fire too by bragging constantly that their kids is in it. The principal and vice principal are both well aware of the divide they are creating, but don’t see, to care about it. They just care about being a center school and keeping the aap level kids winning science fairs...etc to make their school look good. They really don’t care about the gen ed kids. Don’t be fooled. That why a lot of parents switch their kids to private school if they don’t get into aap level 4 at 3rd or 4th grade. They don’t want their kids to be forgotten which is what happens. If the principal and vice principle truly cared about all the kids they would put resources into the gened classroom also to give those kids the same level education and expectation which I’m sure all those kids could meet and succeed given the chance.