Anonymous wrote:Np. You are basically saying that because both sides have done something, that they must be equal. That is your prejudice.
takoma wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look, I'm sure you're a nice guy, but you're tap dancing. Of course you view "your side" as being less malicious. But beyond that it has no meaning because someone else will say the same thing about their side.Takoma wrote:In my defense, I think I would, in fact, be just as disgusted if I saw something like this from a Democrat. The fact that I have criticized several of Obama's policies, such as Gitmo, shows I'm not a total Dem mouthpiece. But I admit that I may be less likely to see a Democratic version of the Lundergan Grimes ad, since I tend to look at more liberally inclined websites. For my edification, perhaps one of our posters could give an example of a similar ad from Harry Reid, or some other prominent Dem. Until then, I confess that I take the "both sides do it" defense as a knee-jerk attempt at even-handedness between two sides which, in my opinion, are not equally malicious (which is not to say that there are no sleazy Dems).
Truth is they both do it and politics is a nasty game. But part of it is at least admitting out loud that you're prejudice towards your side and therefore are likely unable to judge fairly on political topics in general, which is refreshing on some level.
Actually I'm a nasty bastard, but what has that got to do with the question at hand? Tell me that you truly believe that Maddow and Olbermann are as bad as Limbaugh and Beck, or that there is anyone on the left as bad as Rove or the Swift Boaters. Name me some names that match the Koch Brothers.
takoma wrote:Actually I'm a nasty bastard, but what has that got to do with the question at hand? Tell me that you truly believe that Maddow and Olbermann are as bad as Limbaugh and Beck, or that there is anyone on the left as bad as Rove or the Swift Boaters. Name me some names that match the Koch Brothers.
Anonymous wrote:Look, I'm sure you're a nice guy, but you're tap dancing. Of course you view "your side" as being less malicious. But beyond that it has no meaning because someone else will say the same thing about their side.Takoma wrote:In my defense, I think I would, in fact, be just as disgusted if I saw something like this from a Democrat. The fact that I have criticized several of Obama's policies, such as Gitmo, shows I'm not a total Dem mouthpiece. But I admit that I may be less likely to see a Democratic version of the Lundergan Grimes ad, since I tend to look at more liberally inclined websites. For my edification, perhaps one of our posters could give an example of a similar ad from Harry Reid, or some other prominent Dem. Until then, I confess that I take the "both sides do it" defense as a knee-jerk attempt at even-handedness between two sides which, in my opinion, are not equally malicious (which is not to say that there are no sleazy Dems).
Truth is they both do it and politics is a nasty game. But part of it is at least admitting out loud that you're prejudice towards your side and therefore are likely unable to judge fairly on political topics in general, which is refreshing on some level.
When a liberal group slimed McConnells wife many liberals jumped on the thread here and condemned it. Wish conservatives would do the same.
Anonymous wrote:Takoma wrote:In my defense, I think I would, in fact, be just as disgusted if I saw something like this from a Democrat. The fact that I have criticized several of Obama's policies, such as Gitmo, shows I'm not a total Dem mouthpiece. But I admit that I may be less likely to see a Democratic version of the Lundergan Grimes ad, since I tend to look at more liberally inclined websites. For my edification, perhaps one of our posters could give an example of a similar ad from Harry Reid, or some other prominent Dem. Until then, I confess that I take the "both sides do it" defense as a knee-jerk attempt at even-handedness between two sides which, in my opinion, are not equally malicious (which is not to say that there are no sleazy Dems).
Look, I'm sure you're a nice guy, but you're tap dancing. Of course you view "your side" as being less malicious. But beyond that it has no meaning because someone else will say the same thing about their side.
Truth is they both do it and politics is a nasty game. But part of it is at least admitting out loud that you're prejudice towards your side and therefore are likely unable to judge fairly on political topics in general, which is refreshing on some level.
Takoma wrote:In my defense, I think I would, in fact, be just as disgusted if I saw something like this from a Democrat. The fact that I have criticized several of Obama's policies, such as Gitmo, shows I'm not a total Dem mouthpiece. But I admit that I may be less likely to see a Democratic version of the Lundergan Grimes ad, since I tend to look at more liberally inclined websites. For my edification, perhaps one of our posters could give an example of a similar ad from Harry Reid, or some other prominent Dem. Until then, I confess that I take the "both sides do it" defense as a knee-jerk attempt at even-handedness between two sides which, in my opinion, are not equally malicious (which is not to say that there are no sleazy Dems).
Anonymous wrote:In that case I'm not seeing an issue since both sides do it.takoma wrote:OP here, as is no doubt obvious from the fact that I am not Anonymous.
I had a vicerally negative reaction to that ad because it grated on my superannuated eyes and ears as a noisy hash-up of video cuts having nothing to do with policy and demeaning the candidate in a way that I thought beneath an official campaign. However, although the mark I saw on the video appeared to be that of the McConnell campaign, I was not sure, so I phrased it as a question.
Tell you what, whenever I see you post something like this about a Democratic candidate ad then you'll show yourself to be equally disgusted with both sides, which would be the proper disposition to take. Otherwise, anybody can pick sides and point while ignoring their own, which is meaningless.
- A Registered Independent for over 30 years
takoma wrote:OP here, as is no doubt obvious from the fact that I am not Anonymous.
I had a vicerally negative reaction to that ad because it grated on my superannuated eyes and ears as a noisy hash-up of video cuts having nothing to do with policy and demeaning the candidate in a way that I thought beneath an official campaign. However, although the mark I saw on the video appeared to be that of the McConnell campaign, I was not sure, so I phrased it as a question.
Anonymous wrote:I agree. Obama is hurting the country and he's a rancid piece of shit.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:... crusade to do anything to undo Obama, even if in the process he is also hurting the country.
He's a rancid piece of shit.
I agree. Obama is hurting the country and he's a rancid piece of shit.
Anonymous wrote:... crusade to do anything to undo Obama, even if in the process he is also hurting the country.
He's a rancid piece of shit.
Anonymous wrote:McConnell lives in and wallows in the slime.
He has absolutely nothing of substance to offer so he engages in his near-treasonous crusade to do anything to undo Obama, even if in the process he is also hurting the country.
He's a rancid piece of shit.