Anonymous
Post 07/09/2013 07:10     Subject: WPPSI/WISC Myths
And what the best wppsi test materials are?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2013 04:06     Subject: WPPSI/WISC Myths
Can someone tell me who the easy testers are?
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2013 15:34     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
And the previously gibberish ...?
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2013 08:11     Subject: WPPSI/WISC Myths
This thread is so typical of DCUM. One person asks for the name of a "hard tester" that someone else referred to. No answer to the question, just posts telling her that she shouldn't ask the question, or that it is irrelevant.

Then another person asserts that testers are on boards. Someone else asks for specific examples, and is told to figure it out herself.

No one answers the actual questions. Nope! Why not, when we can just start arguing about whether a question is valid or whether the answer is easily googled?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 20:11     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
Great!
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 19:53     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
Anonymous wrote:
Give me a few examples please. Names some schools and link to their boards. That is all public info, so should be easy for you to demonstrate. I am from Missouri, so Show Me!

Since this is all public information and you are from Missouri you should at least be capable of verifying this if you are half way interested.

Yes! I would love to verify this! Please tell me what schools have board members who administer the WISC/WPPSI/SSAT tests. I look forward to verifying your info.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 19:42     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
Give me a few examples please. Names some schools and link to their boards. That is all public info, so should be easy for you to demonstrate. I am from Missouri, so Show Me!


Since this is all public information and you are from Missouri you should at least be capable of verifying this if you are half way interested.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 19:39     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
The boarding schools do not blatantly face this conflict of interest issue since the SSAT doesn't require school "recommended individual testers and their parlors".
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 19:39     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
Anonymous wrote:Some testers are on the Board of Directors -- and other committees--for the schools. How do you spell conflict of interest? How much are the testers paid per test/evaluation each year?

Give me a few examples please. Names some schools and link to their boards. That is all public info, so should be easy for you to demonstrate. I am from Missouri, so Show Me!
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 19:37     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
Some testers are on the Board of Directors -- and other committees--for the schools. How do you spell conflict of interest? How much are the testers paid per test/evaluation each year?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 10:38     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
Anonymous wrote:How do you spell conflict of interest?


I dunno. Could you explain what you mean in this context?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 10:33     Subject: WPPSI/WISC Myths
Anonymous wrote:15:38 said specifically that schools recommend testers, and you say that you don't know whether they recommend particular testers? The OP said that schools know who the easy testers are. If I were in admissions, I would discount a child's application if it seemed the parents deliberately picked an easy tester; I think that that is confirmed by the OP. I am aware that the schools have lists that they use. Since I have not seen names of testers on DCUM other than those listed on independent school websites, I would guess that some of the "easy" testers are still recommended by the schools. I would like to avoid the easy testers. I merely asked for the name of 11:03's tester. I do not see what that should be difficult to understand.


Your post assumes a school will recommend an "easy tester," and then "discount" the applications of any families that actually choose that easy tester the school recommended. I find that scenario unlikely. Why would a school recommend a tester it considers unreliable?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 10:18     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
How do you spell conflict of interest?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 09:15     Subject: WPPSI/WISC Myths
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My advice would be to ask a couple of the schools where you plan on applying to suggest testers. I think some schools even post lists of preferred testers online (or at least I know they used to post them).

Thanks. Did that already years ago. Are you saying that the schools don't recommend easy testers?.

No, I'm saying schools recommend testers they feel comfortable with. Whether the tester is an "easy grader" or a "hard grader," the school will know it and adjust accordingly.

Some schools might know and avoid extremely easy graders, or extremely hard graders, because they don't consider their scores reliable. Best to be guided by what the school you're applying to thinks best. Otherwise, you risk having a test result the school considers worthless.


But why would the school recommend someone they consider an easy grader? I don't want the school "adjust[ing] accordingly." I want the school to say, "They didn't shop around for an easy tester."


I don't understand you, PP. I don't know whether, or why, particular schools choose to recommend particular testers. If you want to know that, ask the schools. I just know that if you pick someone unknown to the school (or unrecommended by the school), there is some risk involved. Maybe the tester is an extremely easy (or hard) grader. Maybe the tester is unreliable. Maybe the school just doesn't know how to evaluate the tester. Or maybe you'll pick someone fine with no problems whatsoever, like one of the other PPs did. But if the school is willing to offer you names of testers, it seems best to use one of those. YMMV. Good luck.


15:38 said specifically that schools recommend testers, and you say that you don't know whether they recommend particular testers? The OP said that schools know who the easy testers are. If I were in admissions, I would discount a child's application if it seemed the parents deliberately picked an easy tester; I think that that is confirmed by the OP. I am aware that the schools have lists that they use. Since I have not seen names of testers on DCUM other than those listed on independent school websites, I would guess that some of the "easy" testers are still recommended by the schools. I would like to avoid the easy testers. I merely asked for the name of 11:03's tester. I do not see what that should be difficult to understand.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2013 07:26     Subject: Re:WPPSI/WISC Myths
The schools are not in cahoots with the testers. They are only listing people to give the parents a resource to be helpful. It's like the summer reading list: here are some books we like and that your kid light do well with at age X. But if you read a book over the summer not on the list we are still so happy your child is reading. It still counts!