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Anonymous wrote:I understand the need to minimize risks, but forcing shots on your relatives is just too much. If you take your child outside the house before they're a year old they're going to be exposed to people who haven't had the tdap shot. I can't take the shot and I couldn't let dd take it because of a history of reactions to the pertussis vaccine in our family. I never even thought about about this when I visit friends with newborns. PPs, do I need to wear a sign around my neck so that you know to stay away?

I wish you would.

But I won't. I'm probably going to forget about this whole issue the second I log off. There is only so much you can do to control your surroundings, that's the point. I *wish* I could give my kids the vaccine, but I can't, because the last person in our family to take it had seizures and went into a coma for 2 months. The new version of the vaccine that people take now is only half as strong as it used to be, and that's part of the reason there are so many outbreaks, because so many people had such a negative reaction to the full vaccine. You can't control everything, you can't control everyone. Are you going to ask all of your friends who want to visit your newborn if they're fully vaccinated? Are you going to ask people in the supermarket or wherever you take your baby? We have such a distorted view of how much we can control.

But you can control grandparents who will be spending large amounts of time in close contact with the baby. And I did tell friends that if they didn't have the pertussis and flu vaccine that they couldn't come to my house, per our neo's instructions. Sure, it isn't a foolproof plan, but I will do whatever I can to minimize my preemie newborn's exposure to deadly diseases.

Same here. We didn't allow many friends in the house during first months, none were allowed to hold or even touch the babies, and we avoided public indoor places during the winter because of flu season. Now that they are six months old, I'm more relaxed, and my husband's unvaccinated family has been visiting. But I have no regrets about taking the the precautions during the first months.

This all sounds very miserable and almost paranoid. I did none of this and dd didn't get so much as a sniffle until 1 year, even though she was born in the fall.

Yeah, and grandfather smoked everyday and lived till 150.

Anonymous wrote:We didn't allow any unvaccinated family to visit until our twins had had two rounds of vaccinations and flu season was over. Whoever thinks not getting vaccinated is more important than seeing the babies can wait. They were preemies, though, but I don't think I would have thought much differently if they had been full term.

wow

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are beyond belief and it has everything to do with control over your MIL. Never complaint about your owm mother.

No, because my own mother and father had no issue getting their shots before coming here.

+1

OP, my MIL totally lied about getting TDap and DH covered her lie! I am a very calm, soft-spoken person, but I was so mad I went ballistic and they freaked out and got vaccinated. Ugh.

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Anonymous wrote:If a newborn contracts pertussis, there is a strong chance such newborn will die. If you don't want to get vaccinated, that is your choice. But you won't be holding my baby. Don't discuss it. This is the only thing I have taken a hard line on. I let the grandparents give the kids junk food, keep them up late, watch tv, etc. But this was my hill to die on.

Oh PP, come off of it. People like you and your hysteria are serious contributing factors in why people don't take the rest of us seriously RE vaccines. No, there is NOT a "strong chance" that a newborn will die if it contracts pertussis. For crying out loud. There were 18 deaths last year, out of 41,000 cases. Serious? VERY. But come read a bit:

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/features/pertussis/


Disease Complications
Pertussis is most severe for babies; about half of infants younger than 1 year of age who get the disease need treatment in the hospital. About 1 in 4 hospitalized infants with pertussis get pneumonia (lung infection), and about two thirds will have slowed or stopped breathing. Pertussis can be deadly for 1 or 2 infants per 100 who are hospitalized. Learn how pertussis can be treated.

How Pertussis Spreads
People with pertussis usually spread the disease by coughing or sneezing while in close contact with others, who then breathe in the pertussis bacteria. Many infants who get pertussis are infected by parents, older siblings, or other caregivers who might not even know they have the disease.

Pertussis Trends
Reported cases of pertussis vary from year to year and tend to peak every 3-5 years. More than 41,000 cases of pertussis were provisionally reported across the United States during 2012, including 18 deaths. The majority of deaths continue to occur among infants younger than 3 months of age. Learn more about pertussis outbreaks and trends.

Another idiot who can't even read her own posted quotes.
2 deaths out of 100 hosp is a risk too high for any reasonable, rational person's comfort. Pneumonia and respiratory arrest are not fun, either.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, for pity sake, have her wash her hands b/f she holds the baby.

If your baby is high risk, e.g., a premie, then take more precautions. I think you might be over-reacting a bit.

You're an idiot.

NP here. Just wanted to add support for OP. We didn't have anyone into the house for the first 2 months who wasn't current on TDaP, and that included my (completely understanding and supportive) father who can't take the vaccine for medical reasons. Once DD had her own shot, we eased up, in accordance with our pediatricians' recommendations. None of our friends or family objected, both our mothers got the shot and stayed with us for several weeks, it all went fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding me? It is her body not yours. I got Epstein Barr after a vaccine once. My god.

Oh hai, Jenny McCarthy.

Good god. My father in law, a surgeon, also had epstein barr after a vaccine. We still all vaccinate, but good god, people. It happens. It's a real risk. Educate yourself, because you're the moron.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the need to minimize risks, but forcing shots on your relatives is just too much. If you take your child outside the house before they're a year old they're going to be exposed to people who haven't had the tdap shot. I can't take the shot and I couldn't let dd take it because of a history of reactions to the pertussis vaccine in our family. I never even thought about about this when I visit friends with newborns. PPs, do I need to wear a sign around my neck so that you know to stay away?

I wish you would.

But I won't. I'm probably going to forget about this whole issue the second I log off. There is only so much you can do to control your surroundings, that's the point. I *wish* I could give my kids the vaccine, but I can't, because the last person in our family to take it had seizures and went into a coma for 2 months. The new version of the vaccine that people take now is only half as strong as it used to be, and that's part of the reason there are so many outbreaks, because so many people had such a negative reaction to the full vaccine. You can't control everything, you can't control everyone. Are you going to ask all of your friends who want to visit your newborn if they're fully vaccinated? Are you going to ask people in the supermarket or wherever you take your baby? We have such a distorted view of how much we can control.

But you can control grandparents who will be spending large amounts of time in close contact with the baby. And I did tell friends that if they didn't have the pertussis and flu vaccine that they couldn't come to my house, per our neo's instructions. Sure, it isn't a foolproof plan, but I will do whatever I can to minimize my preemie newborn's exposure to deadly diseases.

Same here. We didn't allow many friends in the house during first months, none were allowed to hold or even touch the babies, and we avoided public indoor places during the winter because of flu season. Now that they are six months old, I'm more relaxed, and my husband's unvaccinated family has been visiting. But I have no regrets about taking the the precautions during the first months.

This all sounds very miserable and almost paranoid. I did none of this and dd didn't get so much as a sniffle until 1 year, even though she was born in the fall.

Anonymous wrote:Some of you are beyond belief and it has everything to do with control over your MIL. Never complaint about your owm mother.

No, because my own mother and father had no issue getting their shots before coming here.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the need to minimize risks, but forcing shots on your relatives is just too much. If you take your child outside the house before they're a year old they're going to be exposed to people who haven't had the tdap shot. I can't take the shot and I couldn't let dd take it because of a history of reactions to the pertussis vaccine in our family. I never even thought about about this when I visit friends with newborns. PPs, do I need to wear a sign around my neck so that you know to stay away?

I wish you would.

But I won't. I'm probably going to forget about this whole issue the second I log off. There is only so much you can do to control your surroundings, that's the point. I *wish* I could give my kids the vaccine, but I can't, because the last person in our family to take it had seizures and went into a coma for 2 months. The new version of the vaccine that people take now is only half as strong as it used to be, and that's part of the reason there are so many outbreaks, because so many people had such a negative reaction to the full vaccine. You can't control everything, you can't control everyone. Are you going to ask all of your friends who want to visit your newborn if they're fully vaccinated? Are you going to ask people in the supermarket or wherever you take your baby? We have such a distorted view of how much we can control.

But you can control grandparents who will be spending large amounts of time in close contact with the baby. And I did tell friends that if they didn't have the pertussis and flu vaccine that they couldn't come to my house, per our neo's instructions. Sure, it isn't a foolproof plan, but I will do whatever I can to minimize my preemie newborn's exposure to deadly diseases.

Same here. We didn't allow many friends in the house during first months, none were allowed to hold or even touch the babies, and we avoided public indoor places during the winter because of flu season. Now that they are six months old, I'm more relaxed, and my husband's unvaccinated family has been visiting. But I have no regrets about taking the the precautions during the first months.

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding me? It is her body not yours. I got Epstein Barr after a vaccine once. My god.

Oh hai, Jenny McCarthy.

Anonymous wrote:If a newborn contracts pertussis, there is a strong chance such newborn will die. If you don't want to get vaccinated, that is your choice. But you won't be holding my baby. Don't discuss it. This is the only thing I have taken a hard line on. I let the grandparents give the kids junk food, keep them up late, watch tv, etc. But this was my hill to die on.

Oh PP, come off of it. People like you and your hysteria are serious contributing factors in why people don't take the rest of us seriously RE vaccines. No, there is NOT a "strong chance" that a newborn will die if it contracts pertussis. For crying out loud. There were 18 deaths last year, out of 41,000 cases. Serious? VERY. But come read a bit:

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/features/pertussis/


Disease Complications
Pertussis is most severe for babies; about half of infants younger than 1 year of age who get the disease need treatment in the hospital. About 1 in 4 hospitalized infants with pertussis get pneumonia (lung infection), and about two thirds will have slowed or stopped breathing. Pertussis can be deadly for 1 or 2 infants per 100 who are hospitalized. Learn how pertussis can be treated.

How Pertussis Spreads
People with pertussis usually spread the disease by coughing or sneezing while in close contact with others, who then breathe in the pertussis bacteria. Many infants who get pertussis are infected by parents, older siblings, or other caregivers who might not even know they have the disease.

Pertussis Trends
Reported cases of pertussis vary from year to year and tend to peak every 3-5 years. More than 41,000 cases of pertussis were provisionally reported across the United States during 2012, including 18 deaths. The majority of deaths continue to occur among infants younger than 3 months of age. Learn more about pertussis outbreaks and trends.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the need to minimize risks, but forcing shots on your relatives is just too much. If you take your child outside the house before they're a year old they're going to be exposed to people who haven't had the tdap shot. I can't take the shot and I couldn't let dd take it because of a history of reactions to the pertussis vaccine in our family. I never even thought about about this when I visit friends with newborns. PPs, do I need to wear a sign around my neck so that you know to stay away?

I wish you would.

But I won't. I'm probably going to forget about this whole issue the second I log off. There is only so much you can do to control your surroundings, that's the point. I *wish* I could give my kids the vaccine, but I can't, because the last person in our family to take it had seizures and went into a coma for 2 months. The new version of the vaccine that people take now is only half as strong as it used to be, and that's part of the reason there are so many outbreaks, because so many people had such a negative reaction to the full vaccine. You can't control everything, you can't control everyone. Are you going to ask all of your friends who want to visit your newborn if they're fully vaccinated? Are you going to ask people in the supermarket or wherever you take your baby? We have such a distorted view of how much we can control.

But you can control grandparents who will be spending large amounts of time in close contact with the baby. And I did tell friends that if they didn't have the pertussis and flu vaccine that they couldn't come to my house, per our neo's instructions. Sure, it isn't a foolproof plan, but I will do whatever I can to minimize my preemie newborn's exposure to deadly diseases.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand the need to minimize risks, but forcing shots on your relatives is just too much. If you take your child outside the house before they're a year old they're going to be exposed to people who haven't had the tdap shot. I can't take the shot and I couldn't let dd take it because of a history of reactions to the pertussis vaccine in our family. I never even thought about about this when I visit friends with newborns. PPs, do I need to wear a sign around my neck so that you know to stay away?

I wish you would.

But I won't. I'm probably going to forget about this whole issue the second I log off. There is only so much you can do to control your surroundings, that's the point. I *wish* I could give my kids the vaccine, but I can't, because the last person in our family to take it had seizures and went into a coma for 2 months. The new version of the vaccine that people take now is only half as strong as it used to be, and that's part of the reason there are so many outbreaks, because so many people had such a negative reaction to the full vaccine. You can't control everything, you can't control everyone. Are you going to ask all of your friends who want to visit your newborn if they're fully vaccinated? Are you going to ask people in the supermarket or wherever you take your baby? We have such a distorted view of how much we can control.

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding me? It is her body not yours. I got Epstein Barr after a vaccine once. My god.

And it is the OP's baby. Not the MIL's.