Anonymous
04/29/2013 14:07
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:I definitely see it at my DC's big MoCo high school. I know 3-4 kids who got into Ivies (top Ivies! Go get 'em, troll!) who have committed to state schools or private universities that offered better FA instead.
My daughter was one. She turned down an Ivy, but not because of FA. She visited and just plain didn't like it. She shocked everyone. I'll admit to being a little disappointed in her decision initially. But she is thriving in a competitive honors program in a state school. I guess she was smart enough to know which school was the better fit for her.
Anonymous
04/29/2013 14:03
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20:40 never replied who got the job...but 10 to 1 its the H A R V A R D grad.
when I interned at the White House, my supervisor let it slip that they refused to take Ivy students in their office. They got a lot of attiitude from past interns who felt the work was "beneath them." She was actually worried that I might be like that, as my school is generally considered to be just a step below the Ivies. They were pleasantly surprised at how willing I was to do even the most boring of tasks with a smile on my face.
Don't be so sure about who got the job is all I am saying here...
really? I wish that was the case....i see ivy grads taking 11-15 dollar/hour jobs at MLB and NBA teams, busting their ass, doing really mundane shit just to break into the league....I would imagine they would treat White House intern-work the same way....i.e. working their tails off because of the connections it'll give in the future?
to be fair, I should have added that my internship was 15 years ago. I do realize times have changed...hopefully the attitudes have changed, as well.
Based on this board, though - not so much.
We do the same thing, but we are not the White House. We will not take and Ivy college student for summer internships because they come in and tell us what we are doing wrong and how we can do it better. They mean well but they have no clue how to think critically - they don't understand how important it is to understand the culture of the environment before you can implement change. They also will not really make that many connections here to further their future so I figure it is better to just let them find something else.
Has anybody had a good experience with an Ivy intern?
I had the same experience. It's just an unspoken rule. They won't even consider a kid from an Ivy. Too many bad experiences in the past.
Anonymous
04/29/2013 13:57
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I definitely see it at my DC's big MoCo high school. I know 3-4 kids who got into Ivies (top Ivies! Go get 'em, troll!) who have committed to state schools or private universities that offered better FA instead.
genuine question...are they STEM/premed?
I know some better than others. Without grilling DC, I think I can say that none of them is STEM although one or two might (I just don't know) go Pre-med and one is definitely going into the arts.
Anonymous
04/29/2013 13:09
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:I definitely see it at my DC's big MoCo high school. I know 3-4 kids who got into Ivies (top Ivies! Go get 'em, troll!) who have committed to state schools or private universities that offered better FA instead.
genuine question...are they STEM/premed?
Anonymous
04/29/2013 12:13
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
I definitely see it at my DC's big MoCo high school. I know 3-4 kids who got into Ivies (top Ivies! Go get 'em, troll!) who have committed to state schools or private universities that offered better FA instead.
Anonymous
04/29/2013 12:10
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20:40 never replied who got the job...but 10 to 1 its the H A R V A R D grad.
when I interned at the White House, my supervisor let it slip that they refused to take Ivy students in their office. They got a lot of attiitude from past interns who felt the work was "beneath them." She was actually worried that I might be like that, as my school is generally considered to be just a step below the Ivies. They were pleasantly surprised at how willing I was to do even the most boring of tasks with a smile on my face.
Don't be so sure about who got the job is all I am saying here...
really? I wish that was the case....i see ivy grads taking 11-15 dollar/hour jobs at MLB and NBA teams, busting their ass, doing really mundane shit just to break into the league....I would imagine they would treat White House intern-work the same way....i.e. working their tails off because of the connections it'll give in the future?
to be fair, I should have added that my internship was 15 years ago. I do realize times have changed...hopefully the attitudes have changed, as well.
Based on this board, though - not so much.
We do the same thing, but we are not the White House. We will not take and Ivy college student for summer internships because they come in and tell us what we are doing wrong and how we can do it better. They mean well but they have no clue how to think critically - they don't understand how important it is to understand the culture of the environment before you can implement change. They also will not really make that many connections here to further their future so I figure it is better to just let them find something else.
Has anybody had a good experience with an Ivy intern?
Anonymous
04/29/2013 11:23
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
With the state I'm living in now, it seems like most parents, even the fairly affluent ones are pushing for the public unis. We do have a top 20 school here, but the flagship public is comparable when it comes to liberal arts, and the "state" school ranks equally in engineering. In state tuition is fairly cheap so there's not as much interest for the name school, and most of it's students are OOS.
Anonymous
04/29/2013 09:34
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20:40 never replied who got the job...but 10 to 1 its the H A R V A R D grad.
when I interned at the White House, my supervisor let it slip that they refused to take Ivy students in their office. They got a lot of attiitude from past interns who felt the work was "beneath them." She was actually worried that I might be like that, as my school is generally considered to be just a step below the Ivies. They were pleasantly surprised at how willing I was to do even the most boring of tasks with a smile on my face.
Don't be so sure about who got the job is all I am saying here...
really? I wish that was the case....i see ivy grads taking 11-15 dollar/hour jobs at MLB and NBA teams, busting their ass, doing really mundane shit just to break into the league....I would imagine they would treat White House intern-work the same way....i.e. working their tails off because of the connections it'll give in the future?
to be fair, I should have added that my internship was 15 years ago. I do realize times have changed...hopefully the attitudes have changed, as well.
Based on this board, though - not so much.
Anonymous
04/29/2013 03:50
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20:40 never replied who got the job...but 10 to 1 its the H A R V A R D grad.
when I interned at the White House, my supervisor let it slip that they refused to take Ivy students in their office. They got a lot of attiitude from past interns who felt the work was "beneath them." She was actually worried that I might be like that, as my school is generally considered to be just a step below the Ivies. They were pleasantly surprised at how willing I was to do even the most boring of tasks with a smile on my face.
Don't be so sure about who got the job is all I am saying here...
really? I wish that was the case....i see ivy grads taking 11-15 dollar/hour jobs at MLB and NBA teams, busting their ass, doing really mundane shit just to break into the league....I would imagine they would treat White House intern-work the same way....i.e. working their tails off because of the connections it'll give in the future?
Anonymous
04/28/2013 19:59
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well pp -- there are a lot of great state schools but if you've invested your money in private...most people will want something better for their kid. (signed...a state school grad with an Ivy kid who went to a private here).
Wrong.
-- state school grad with kid in private mainly to avoid NCLB joyless bullshit, and not looking for dubious bragging right (car stickers!) ROI
I think it is more about the shift from small environment to very large. I would love my child to go to a state school, but I worry about the transition from 100 people in a graduating class to 100 people in an actual class (at least!)
Anonymous
04/28/2013 19:50
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:20:40 never replied who got the job...but 10 to 1 its the H A R V A R D grad.
when I interned at the White House, my supervisor let it slip that they refused to take Ivy students in their office. They got a lot of attiitude from past interns who felt the work was "beneath them." She was actually worried that I might be like that, as my school is generally considered to be just a step below the Ivies. They were pleasantly surprised at how willing I was to do even the most boring of tasks with a smile on my face.
Don't be so sure about who got the job is all I am saying here...
Anonymous
04/28/2013 19:10
Subject: Re:Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
20:40 never replied who got the job...but 10 to 1 its the H A R V A R D grad.
Anonymous
04/28/2013 16:16
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
That's why it's now hard to get into UMD-College Park.
Anonymous
04/28/2013 16:11
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
Anonymous wrote:Well pp -- there are a lot of great state schools but if you've invested your money in private...most people will want something better for their kid. (signed...a state school grad with an Ivy kid who went to a private here).
Wrong.
-- state school grad with kid in private mainly to avoid NCLB joyless bullshit, and not looking for dubious bragging right (car stickers!) ROI
Anonymous
04/28/2013 15:33
Subject: Does anyone else notice that more families are encouraging their kids to apply to state schools?
I graduated from a well regarded private university. It was great for me, and I am very thankful that my parents allowed me to follow that dream on their dime.
But with the cost of college these days, I will be hoping my child goes to a state school. We are lucky to live in VA where the state university system is well regarded.
I will be encouraging her to apply for every scholarship possible, too.
But with the cost of college these days, I will be hoping my child goes to a state school. We are lucky to live in VA where the state university system is well regarded.
I will be encouraging her to apply for every scholarship possible, too.