Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 19:05     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Acceptance rate has to be the easiest ratings factor to manipulate. Most schools admit about the same number of freshmen each year, so the key is getting people to apply. Big 3 will always get their supply, but they could goose the number if they just hinted that they might be more open to apps in a particular year. California University system allowed application to all schools in the system with a single fee – do you think the acceptance rates at those schools will go down as # of apps booms? Send your counselors into the DMV to talk at the public and private schools and watch the application #’s soar. I think average SAT/ACT of admitted students is the single best indicator of the academic strength of an admitted class. Standardized tests – love ‘em or hate ‘em are the most objective measure we have.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 19:00     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Cornell
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 18:55     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The "top" Ivies are HYP, and I would say if there are a "bottom three" they would be Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown.


+1


Darmouth below Penn - REALLY? Why?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 18:31     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:The "top" Ivies are HYP, and I would say if there are a "bottom three" they would be Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown.


+1
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 18:27     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell. That's the only one that "doesn't really count."


For an engineering degree, Cornell is the top pick, in my opinion. Carnegie Mellon for Computer Science....and neither are Ivy League!


What about Stanford, Caltech, and MIT, they've got to be up there.


Only if they change sports leagues.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:48     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

University of Chicago (not an Ivy, but ranked 10) was certainly poo poo'd by my big 3.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:32     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell. That's the only one that "doesn't really count."


For an engineering degree, Cornell is the top pick, in my opinion. Carnegie Mellon for Computer Science....and neither are Ivy League!


What about Stanford, Caltech, and MIT, they've got to be up there.


For CS, CMU is as good as any school out there. The ones you mention are also right there.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:23     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell. That's the only one that "doesn't really count."


For an engineering degree, Cornell is the top pick, in my opinion. Carnegie Mellon for Computer Science....and neither are Ivy League!


What about Stanford, Caltech, and MIT, they've got to be up there.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:22     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell. That's the only one that "doesn't really count."


For an engineering degree, Cornell is the top pick, in my opinion. Carnegie Mellon for Computer Science....and neither are Ivy League!


Sorry, that was a typo. Obviously, Cornell is Ivy League. I meant Carnegie Mellon isn't. I originally had posted other CS schools, but deleted them just because I felt this made my point. Now I have a whole other post explaining it. Haha.

This all makes sense because I went to a SUNY school.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:20     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:Cornell. That's the only one that "doesn't really count."


For an engineering degree, Cornell is the top pick, in my opinion. Carnegie Mellon for Computer Science....and neither are Ivy League!
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:17     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:Cornell has a state supported Ag school that is the source of many of the jokes at Cornell's expense -- such as SUNY Cornell.

Cornell also has the nation's highest suicide rate.


Cornell also has MUCH better views than Yale or Brown. And Cornell is not as cold as Dartmouth.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:17     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:Cornell has a state supported Ag school that is the source of many of the jokes at Cornell's expense -- such as SUNY Cornell.

Cornell also has the nation's highest suicide rate.


I wonder if it because of the two gorges on campus.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:15     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Anonymous wrote:Cornell, which I love and think is a great school, is often the butt of jokes because it has a higher acceptance rate than the others.

Brown is hot these days. But not as hot as HYP or Columbia. Does being in the "bottom 4" of the 8 Ivy colleges make it a "bottom" ivy? I couldn't say.

Bottom line, all the ivies are really hard to get into. I don't know anyone who is embarrassed about Cornell or Penn (full disclosure, Penn is my alma mater).


Unless the student is an engineer.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:14     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Tops for what?

For acceptance rates?
Www.talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1473712-class-2017-march-April-acceptance-rates.html

Bang for your buck? Why hello, Cornell. One of Cornell's land grant colleges (or whatever they're called).
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2013 17:09     Subject: What are the "bottom Ivies"?

Cornell has a state supported Ag school that is the source of many of the jokes at Cornell's expense -- such as SUNY Cornell.

Cornell also has the nation's highest suicide rate.