Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:56
Subject: Re:Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious to me that what seemed like an honest question (rather than snark) about people's religious beliefs has devolved into whether or not something should be capitalized.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
Wow. Cognitive bias much? You really think people of other religions don't get to, or aren't allowed to use "God" unless they're specifically talking about the Judeo-Christian one? FYI you might want to stop using the term Judeo-Christian - it's antiquated, and frankly, extremely offensive. But maybe you're one of those "Jews for Jesus" types that just likes to co-opt everyone else's traditions and beliefs as your own.
Wow, overreacting much? I said that the capital G _generally_ refers to that deity, not that no one was allowed to use the capital version for anything else. I'm not religious, so I really don't have a dog in this fight, but if I saw a reference to "God" with a capital G (outside the obvious beginning of sentence capitalization), I would assume that word referred to the Christian God. If I saw G-d, I would assume the person making the reference was Jewish. If I saw a reference to Allah, I would assume Muslim.
And I honestly didn't know that the term "Judeo-Christian" was offensive. I was using it to refer to religious groups who rely on the Old and/or New Testaments of the Bible for their doctrine. What is a better term, so I know in the future?
FYI Arabic speaking Christians call god "Allah" - because that's literally the linguistic term for "God" - like casa means house in Spanish, Allah means God in Arabic.
As for using a better term, maybe use Christianity to refer to Christian theology? Judaism to refer to Judaic theology? Maybe refer to groups distinctly? Judeo-Christian is not really apropos, since frankly, Islam and Judaism have more in common theologically than Christianity and Judaism. It's a cliquish term, but that friend of yours probably doesn't think you're all that awesome.
Honestly, you sound very ignorant of other traditions and perspectives. It's probably best if you stop and take a comparative theology course or two instead of spouting your bias.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:49
Subject: Re:Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious to me that what seemed like an honest question (rather than snark) about people's religious beliefs has devolved into whether or not something should be capitalized.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
Wow. Cognitive bias much? You really think people of other religions don't get to, or aren't allowed to use "God" unless they're specifically talking about the Judeo-Christian one? FYI you might want to stop using the term Judeo-Christian - it's antiquated, and frankly, extremely offensive. But maybe you're one of those "Jews for Jesus" types that just likes to co-opt everyone else's traditions and beliefs as your own.
Wow, overreacting much? I said that the capital G _generally_ refers to that deity, not that no one was allowed to use the capital version for anything else. I'm not religious, so I really don't have a dog in this fight, but if I saw a reference to "God" with a capital G (outside the obvious beginning of sentence capitalization), I would assume that word referred to the Christian God. If I saw G-d, I would assume the person making the reference was Jewish. If I saw a reference to Allah, I would assume Muslim.
And I honestly didn't know that the term "Judeo-Christian" was offensive. I was using it to refer to religious groups who rely on the Old and/or New Testaments of the Bible for their doctrine. What is a better term, so I know in the future?
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:46
Subject: Re:Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious to me that what seemed like an honest question (rather than snark) about people's religious beliefs has devolved into whether or not something should be capitalized.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
Wow. Cognitive bias much? You really think people of other religions don't get to, or aren't allowed to use "God" unless they're specifically talking about the Judeo-Christian one? FYI you might want to stop using the term Judeo-Christian - it's antiquated, and frankly, extremely offensive. But maybe you're one of those "Jews for Jesus" types that just likes to co-opt everyone else's traditions and beliefs as your own.
I think I see TWO people who are going to have to spend some time in purgatory along with all those unbaptized babies.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:44
Subject: Re:Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious to me that what seemed like an honest question (rather than snark) about people's religious beliefs has devolved into whether or not something should be capitalized.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
wait. hold up. so people who aren't Jewish or Christian are not allowed to use "God" to refer to their deity? WTF? please tell me that's not what you're saying
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:41
Subject: Re:Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:It is hilarious to me that what seemed like an honest question (rather than snark) about people's religious beliefs has devolved into whether or not something should be capitalized.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
Wow. Cognitive bias much? You really think people of other religions don't get to, or aren't allowed to use "God" unless they're specifically talking about the Judeo-Christian one? FYI you might want to stop using the term Judeo-Christian - it's antiquated, and frankly, extremely offensive. But maybe you're one of those "Jews for Jesus" types that just likes to co-opt everyone else's traditions and beliefs as your own.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:37
Subject: Re:Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
It is hilarious to me that what seemed like an honest question (rather than snark) about people's religious beliefs has devolved into whether or not something should be capitalized.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
"God" with a capital G generally refers to the Judeo-Christian supreme deity. The uncapitalized version would refer to a deity, but not that one specifically. It's not that complicated, though pointing out the capitalization error in someone's legitimate response to a legitimate question was fairly bratty and so I probably should not be surprised it's gone on for 2 pages.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:36
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
That's fine. It's like applying for a job. If you misspell the name, you won't likely get the position. As I want to get to Heaven, I'll use the capital "G."
Are you applying for "job" or "Manager of Blahblah?" Sweeping categories don't need capitalization - titles and names do. But man, if that's what your god-du-jour is concerned about, can you give me the name of your god? I'd like to not work for someone that petty with with such frivolous priorities. I'll definitely not apply within
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:31
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
That's fine. It's like applying for a job. If you misspell the name, you won't likely get the position. As I want to get to Heaven, I'll use the capital "G."
I sincerely hope you are joking and don't truly believe g/God would not let you into Heaven because of this. I think s/he/they has/have bigger issues to address.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:22
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
It is still a proper noun whether you believe in the existence of the proper noun or not.
No, "god" is not a proper noun. Now if you're talking about one specific name of the thousands of gods humans have created over the years, then sure - but "god" is non-specific, non-identifying, non-particular, and does not call for capitalization. It might be better if you clarified which god you're talking about.
I believe that the Judeo-Christian God is spelled with a capital G. Pagan ones, no.
Because you're speaking with a religious emic bias, not an objective or categorical analysis. Technically you should capitalize the names of all gods - like you capitalize names of countries and cities, even though you don't live in them.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:20
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
It is still a proper noun whether you believe in the existence of the proper noun or not.
"God" is definitely not a proper noun - (but capitalized here because it's used at the beginning of a sentence). Are names of countries and cities capitalized and proper nouns? Of course. But you don't capitalize the "city" or "country" as broad and unspecified categories or labels. A particular god like Jesus or Yahweh or Allah or Krishna or Zoraster should be capitalized - because those are their names. But "god/gods" is not a specified or proper noun.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:19
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
It is still a proper noun whether you believe in the existence of the proper noun or not.
No, "god" is not a proper noun. Now if you're talking about one specific name of the thousands of gods humans have created over the years, then sure - but "god" is non-specific, non-identifying, non-particular, and does not call for capitalization. It might be better if you clarified which god you're talking about.
I believe that the Judeo-Christian God is spelled with a capital G. Pagan ones, no.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 13:15
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
That's fine. It's like applying for a job. If you misspell the name, you won't likely get the position. As I want to get to Heaven, I'll use the capital "G."
Anonymous
04/02/2013 12:47
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
It is still a proper noun whether you believe in the existence of the proper noun or not.
No, "god" is not a proper noun. Now if you're talking about one specific name of the thousands of gods humans have created over the years, then sure - but "god" is non-specific, non-identifying, non-particular, and does not call for capitalization. It might be better if you clarified which god you're talking about.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 11:45
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most people don't realize that in Islamic theology, Jesus is also believed to be the messiah, and will also come back for a "second coming" - as a messenger of god (not god itself).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
God. Capital G.
I don't believe in god. A non entity doesn't necessitate capitalization
It is still a proper noun whether you believe in the existence of the proper noun or not.
Anonymous
04/02/2013 11:30
Subject: Question for Christians - "Jesus is coming soon"
