Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.

As OP and Asian Parent - Unfortunately I belong to the former.... Over here success in life and business is generally defined by having a good primary/middle/high school education and entering a college with stellar reputation. (Like OXBRIDGE and the IVIES) Even though we detest this idea but we are forced to conform under peer pressure.

It's just a different mindset in a different culture, I guess.

And it did not surprise me when I learned that a lot of my friends in business who have planned on sending their children to the USA have never heard of schools such as UChicago, Northwestern, Georgetown, Rice, Carnegie Mellon, and were completely foreign to the concept of LACs.

Maybe overseas Asian parents, but the ones that live here are VERY familiar with LACs and UChicago, etc. For PP who mentioned that it leaves you less competition for these schools, I wouldn't count on it. You'll be surprised, most Asian parents also know graduate schools rankings, medical specialty rankings, law, etc.

OP - Yes, I am living overseas. You've made a correct statement. As a matter of fact I heard about those schools from my sister in the States. But many others still stay oblivious to the fact that there are many alternative options to the ivies, Stanford, and MIT. To All PPs - I don't mean to offend anybody with what I said, and I am just stating a point that I found interesting. You're also right with the second part, and I find that most overseas Asian parents send their kids to graduate schools and much fewer to colleges and LACs. I guess the trend for colleges just started a couple years earlier.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.

As OP and Asian Parent - Unfortunately I belong to the former.... Over here success in life and business is generally defined by having a good primary/middle/high school education and entering a college with stellar reputation. (Like OXBRIDGE and the IVIES) Even though we detest this idea but we are forced to conform under peer pressure.

It's just a different mindset in a different culture, I guess.

And it did not surprise me when I learned that a lot of my friends in business who have planned on sending their children to the USA have never heard of schools such as UChicago, Northwestern, Georgetown, Rice, Carnegie Mellon, and were completely foreign to the concept of LACs.

Maybe overseas Asian parents, but the ones that live here are VERY familiar with LACs and UChicago, etc. For PP who mentioned that it leaves you less competition for these schools, I wouldn't count on it. You'll be surprised, most Asian parents also know graduate schools rankings, medical specialty rankings, law, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.

As OP and Asian Parent - Unfortunately I belong to the former.... Over here success in life and business is generally defined by having a good primary/middle/high school education and entering a college with stellar reputation. (Like OXBRIDGE and the IVIES) Even though we detest this idea but we are forced to conform under peer pressure.

It's just a different mindset in a different culture, I guess.

And it did not surprise me when I learned that a lot of my friends in business who have planned on sending their children to the USA have never heard of schools such as UChicago, Northwestern, Georgetown, Rice, Carnegie Mellon, and were completely foreign to the concept of LACs.

Delighted to hear this, OP. Less competition for our kids to gain a spot at these terrific schools. Also, so relieved that our paths won't cross --I couldn't stand to hear this kind of conformist, snobbish blather in person!

Yikes, how judgy. You don't sound much better yourself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.

As OP and Asian Parent - Unfortunately I belong to the former.... Over here success in life and business is generally defined by having a good primary/middle/high school education and entering a college with stellar reputation. (Like OXBRIDGE and the IVIES) Even though we detest this idea but we are forced to conform under peer pressure.

It's just a different mindset in a different culture, I guess.

And it did not surprise me when I learned that a lot of my friends in business who have planned on sending their children to the USA have never heard of schools such as UChicago, Northwestern, Georgetown, Rice, Carnegie Mellon, and were completely foreign to the concept of LACs.

Delighted to hear this, OP. Less competition for our kids to gain a spot at these terrific schools. Also, so relieved that our paths won't cross --I couldn't stand to hear this kind of conformist, snobbish blather in person!

Anonymous wrote:Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.

As OP and Asian Parent - Unfortunately I belong to the former.... Over here success in life and business is generally defined by having a good primary/middle/high school education and entering a college with stellar reputation. (Like OXBRIDGE and the IVIES) Even though we detest this idea but we are forced to conform under peer pressure.

It's just a different mindset in a different culture, I guess.

And it did not surprise me when I learned that a lot of my friends in business who have planned on sending their children to the USA have never heard of schools such as UChicago, Northwestern, Georgetown, Rice, Carnegie Mellon, and were completely foreign to the concept of LACs.

STA doesn't do Soviet style central planning for college admissions. I'd say that they do encourage students to take advantage of the substantial advantage that goes to early applicants, but anyone can, in the end, apply to any school they want. I would say the humanities stars tend to go more for Yale, and the more quantitative types tend to pick Harvard (and the true STEM geniuses may go for MIT).

Plenty, although not all, of kids who get into a top school Early Action (which is not binding), will apply to one or two more schools in regular admissions if they are not 100% sure of the school to which they applied EA. That could be at the most selective school (the Stanford or Yale or Harvard EA admit applying to one of the other options) or at the next levels of colleges.

Did any choose Yale over Harvard? Or were they steered to apply to one and not the other? Did STA choose which students would apply to which schools?

Anonymous wrote:Let's just say that the Harvard admissions data for SAT class of 2013 is as spectacular as the last year's. STA is on a roll.

More boys going to Yale than Harvard. Boola boola.

Anonymous wrote:But it does show the attitude of the type people interested in the school and from my experience, the STA community. We will have to agree to disagree.

Most parents of my acquaintance in this area of kids who are in high school, whether it is at the DC area independent schools or MoCo schools or Fairfax County schools, are quite interested in the college process, ranging from the type of support provided in the process to the range of college admissions from their school. I'd say that's honestly more the acceptance than the rule. I would also say that the St. Albans parents I know don't seem to be outliers on this one -- they care as much (a fair amount) as the other parents from public and private schools that their kids end up at the best college choices for the child (whether it's a DIII where the kid can play a sport, to a service academy, to a state school that is affordable for a DC family, to a top selective school like HYP/Stanford/Chicago. I haven't heard any particular Harvard hang-up (Harvard fixation was much, much more prevalent in New England where I grew up, actually).

Anonymous wrote:But it does show the attitude of the type people interested in the school and from my experience, the STA community. We will have to agree to disagree.

Really, this is your answer? If some random OP asks about STA exmissions, then QED, the STA community is full of status-obsessed freaks?

Yes, I disagree with you, mostly because you're crazy.

How many in 2013 were athletic recruits, and which sports?

Anonymous wrote:But it does show the attitude of the type people interested in the school and from my experience, the STA community. We will have to agree to disagree.

It's not just STA: most prospective parents looking at the Big 3 schools in DC are looking at college exmissions to HYP, or HYPMS, or Ivies, or whatever other measuring stick one may choose. If you don't care abotu a school's exmissions, you probbaly will not be looking.

But it does show the attitude of the type people interested in the school and from my experience, the STA community. We will have to agree to disagree.

Anonymous wrote:Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.

OP has no connection to STA, or she wouldn't have to ask this question on DCUM, obviously.

There you go again, slamming STA for behavior by people who have no current connection to STA. Bury.the.hatchet.already.

Defining college success by the number of Harvard admits just shows the narrow backwards attitude at STA. If that's your criteria for life success, go to StA. If you want your child to go to the right collegiate fit and thrive, go elsewhere.