Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not excusing the priest scandal at all-- but somehow we forget that there is a higher percentage of pedophile/child sex abusers in our public schools and no one shines a light in those people at all.

Cite?

This article also speaks about how teachers and administrators hide the abuse. Sound familiar?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102100144.html

Again, does not excuse the Church at all but there is a much bigger problem which people don't seem to want to acknowledge.

Thanks, PP. Everyone should read this article if they really care about the issue of the abuse of children and are not here just to bash. Read it and then let's stick to constructive comments. Is that too much to ask for on DCUM?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not excusing the priest scandal at all-- but somehow we forget that there is a higher percentage of pedophile/child sex abusers in our public schools and no one shines a light in those people at all.

Cite?

This article also speaks about how teachers and administrators hide the abuse. Sound familiar?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102100144.html

Again, does not excuse the Church at all but there is a much bigger problem which people don't seem to want to acknowledge.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that the catholic response to this horror is to try to argue that everyone else is abusing kids and covering it up. Tells you all you need to know about the institution and its supporters.

This post says all we need to know about you.

Well, said PP. It also highlights the need to focus on the problem rather than trying to point fingers about who is worse. Hate-filled people are using it as an excuse to irrationally bash one instituiton versus looking at the bigger picture.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not Catholic. But I agree with Nicholas Kristoff that much of what the church base--the nuns and priests and aren't involved with the scandal--does is "deeply inspiring":

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/opinion/perspectives/nicholas-d-kristof-nuns-rock-as-do-so-many-who-serve-at-the-grassroots-of-the-catholic-church-245411/

He talks about two Catholic churches. I'm pretty sure that none of you will bother to click on the link. But I felt I had to post it anyway.

Yes, a wasted effort. Hatterz wanna hate.

Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that the catholic response to this horror is to try to argue that everyone else is abusing kids and covering it up. Tells you all you need to know about the institution and its supporters.

Really, what does it tell you. That some of us are willing to stick around and NOT stand for it. Walking away does not fix anything. We are working for change. What are you doing?

Anonymous wrote:I find it telling that the catholic response to this horror is to try to argue that everyone else is abusing kids and covering it up. Tells you all you need to know about the institution and its supporters.

This post says all we need to know about you.

I find it telling that the catholic response to this horror is to try to argue that everyone else is abusing kids and covering it up. Tells you all you need to know about the institution and its supporters.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not excusing the priest scandal at all-- but somehow we forget that there is a higher percentage of pedophile/child sex abusers in our public schools and no one shines a light in those people at all.

Cite?

New poster. She's right. I didn't believe it, but I was curious because my ex-husband was abused by a public school teacher. The best study says that TEN percent of ALL students will be molested. Which reminds me that I should go back and skim "Protecting the Gift" again.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/02/is_sexual_abuse_in_schools_very_common_.html

Here's more:

Titled, “Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature,” the report says the mistreatment of students ranges from sexual comments to rape.
In fact, says the studies author, Carol Shakeshaft, professor of educational administration at Hofstra University, in Hempstead, New York, the scope of the school sex problem appears to far exceed the clergy abuse scandal that has rocked the Roman Catholic Church.
Comparing the incidence of sexual misconduct in schools with the Catholic Church scandal, Shakeshift notes that a study by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops concluded that 10,667 young people were sexually mistreated by priests between 1950 and 2002.
In contrast, the extrapolates from a national survey conducted for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000 that roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a public school employee between 1991 and 2000.
The figures suggest “the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests,” said Shakshaft, according to Education Week.
Indeed, more than 4.5 million students are subject to sexual misconduct by an employee of a school sometime between kindergarden and 12th grade, says the report.

Anonymous wrote:You know, I was an abused child during this time. Not by priests, but by a neighbor. I was told not to say anything.
Said neighbor walked around looking in windows: was anything said to him? Nope. We were told to close our curtains.

Truthfully, the church did nothing less than the rest of society.

This is very powerful and true. Sadly, many people are obsessed with blaming only one institution rather than solving the problem and changing societal attitudes overall.

You know, I was an abused child during this time. Not by priests, but by a neighbor. I was told not to say anything.
Said neighbor walked around looking in windows: was anything said to him? Nope. We were told to close our curtains.

Truthfully, the church did nothing less than the rest of society.

SO where is the RM teacher now? Do you know? Do you care? Are you making sure he has not just been moved? Does he still have access to children?

Do you have a case in the area about the Catholic Church at has happened recently?

Any update on the 54 year old silver spring teacher, how long we're there suspicions, what did MoCo do to protect the kids, why did Baltimore arrest him not MoCo.

Have you read the police report, do you even care? In our own back yard. What are you doing to make sure our teachers are okay to be around kids. D you think 3 cases since the bogging of the year is a lot? Can't we do more to protect our kids in our community? Do you care to look nto it, take action, effect change?

Or are you like everybody else, it's not my problem, my kids are getting a good eduction.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were 3 child abuse cases in MCPS this year. Why do you continue to support mongomery county?

Because they didn't cover it up and try to shuffle the teachers off to another school where they could continue abusing for decades.
Does that answer your question?

+1000

Amazing to me that there are still people that don't get this. Including the majority of the Church hierarchy, apparently.

Actually it amazes me how little people know about abuse in their own community.

Actually that is not true. Principals think thy are smarter than cops do their own investigation, ruin the case and the bad guys go free all the time.

Rarely is there a case where only 1 child was abused. Rarely do people report suspicion, they just try to move their problem to another place.

This is true about multiple cases.

Whatever happened to the RM teacher, is he in jail, um NO!

Yeah, this is absolutely the same as the widespread child-rape that was going on internationally in the Catholic Church. In the case of RM, the teacher was prosecuted, but escaped conviction. In the case of the Church, known child-rapists were quietly shuffled off to other parishes where they were free to rape other children. By Church leaders who were then rewarded with promotions.

Keep waving your hands though. Maybe it will distract someone.

Anonymous wrote:

Actually that is not true. Principals think thy are smarter than cops do their own investigation, ruin the case and the bad guys go free all the time.

Hmmm, that sounds familiar. But you still haven't cited any sources.

If you really cared you would look into it. You could ask the states attorney's office in your area about the problem of abuse and if there was a Way to help. You could ask professors that teach about forensic psychology.

Actually that is not true. Principals think thy are smarter than cops do their own investigation, ruin the case and the bad guys go free all the time.

Hmmm, that sounds familiar. But you still haven't cited any sources.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were 3 child abuse cases in MCPS this year. Why do you continue to support mongomery county?

Because they didn't cover it up and try to shuffle the teachers off to another school where they could continue abusing for decades.
Does that answer your question?

+1000

Amazing to me that there are still people that don't get this. Including the majority of the Church hierarchy, apparently.

Actually it amazes me how little people know about abuse in their own community.

Actually that is not true. Principals think thy are smarter than cops do their own investigation, ruin the case and the bad guys go free all the time.

Rarely is there a case where only 1 child was abused. Rarely do people report suspicion, they just try to move their problem to another place.

This is true about multiple cases.

Whatever happened to the RM teacher, is he in jail, um NO!