My daughter is in AAP Center and there are several badly behaving kids in her class. They are very distracting to be honest with you. I was hoping by switching over to Center to have a more focused group with less distractions. Not necessarily...

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Anonymous wrote:Typically, 60% of aap students are in pool, 40% parental referred. If you go to the classroom, you will not be able to tell which is which,

Ever wonder why there're still kids who seem to be unable to keep up with peers in an AAP class or even become nuisances to the class?

But it has nothing to do with test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't received Fairfax Abilities/Cogat scores for my Fairfax County second grader or a pool letter yet so I can't post scores for comparison. Has anyone with a fairfax county second grader received their test scores or pool letter? we have a fourth grader who is now in an AAP Level 4 center who received her scores on 1/8/11 and pool letter on 1/10/11 - why the delay this year?

Holy cow you are organized!!!!

How/why on earth would you keep track of something like that?

I have files for my kids - I keep report cards, special awards, sports keepsakes - definitely not everything, just the important things. When we received the letter my oldest was in the pool, I kept the letter and scores - I am glad I did because it is helpful information now. I would highly recommend doing the same.

Has anyone else received scores or pool letters? What order will they come in?

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Anonymous wrote:Typically, 60% of aap students are in pool, 40% parental referred. If you go to the classroom, you will not be able to tell which is which,

Ever wonder why there're still kids who seem to be unable to keep up with peers in an AAP class or even become nuisances to the class?

A lot of the nuisances are the smartest kids in the class, fyi

Anonymous wrote:I haven't received Fairfax Abilities/Cogat scores for my Fairfax County second grader or a pool letter yet so I can't post scores for comparison. Has anyone with a fairfax county second grader received their test scores or pool letter? we have a fourth grader who is now in an AAP Level 4 center who received her scores on 1/8/11 and pool letter on 1/10/11 - why the delay this year?

Holy cow you are organized!!!!

How/why on earth would you keep track of something like that?

Anonymous wrote:Does a test really mean everything[u]?

No.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/faqs/idfaqs.shtml

Test scores are just one piece of data considered when a file is reviewed for full-time AAP (level IV) center placement. The Level IV Center Central Selection Committee, made up of FCPS teachers, specialists, and administrators, considers multiple criteria, including: the Gifted Behaviors Rating Scale (GBRS), ability and achievement test scores, work samples, student progress reports, and other optional information such as the Parent/Guardian Questionnaire

Does a test really mean everything? I don't believe school would recommend anyone who is not capable enough to go to AAP class.

Anonymous wrote:Typically, 60% of aap students are in pool, 40% parental referred. If you go to the classroom, you will not be able to tell which is which,

Ever wonder why there're still kids who seem to be unable to keep up with peers in an AAP class or even become nuisances to the class?

I haven't received Fairfax Abilities/Cogat scores for my Fairfax County second grader or a pool letter yet so I can't post scores for comparison. Has anyone with a fairfax county second grader received their test scores or pool letter? we have a fourth grader who is now in an AAP Level 4 center who received her scores on 1/8/11 and pool letter on 1/10/11 - why the delay this year?

Anonymous wrote:All of the kids who moved in from out of state over the summer are parent referred.
All of the kids who switched from private school are parent referred.

That's a big chunk of parent referral (and get in). GMU offers 6 NNAT/CoGAT group test sessions a year (3 each semester) for a reason.

All of the kids who moved in from out of state over the summer are parent referred.

All of the kids who switched from private school are parent referred.

But in the grand scheme of things, who really cares? It is not like you can tell the difference once they are in the class. The district does a good job of selecting kids for the program. Perfect? No. Well done? Yes, definitely.

Anonymous wrote:Typically, 60% of aap students are in pool, 40% parental referred. If you go to the classroom, you will not be able to tell which is which,

People here have claimed to possess a magical power that allows them to check out their snowflakes class and see which children are the 'false' AAP kids, because they were parent referred, or got in on appeal.

Typically, 60% of aap students are in pool, 40% parental referred. If you go to the classroom, you will not be able to tell which is which,

Anonymous wrote:Neither the CogAT nor NNAT are screening tests.

00:11 referred to "screening test."

Seems to be lots of misinformation about the 2nd grade pool as compared to parent referrals. Some seem to view the 2nd grade pool as a Must.Be.In to be considered for AAP Center placement. Of course this is not true as parent referral gets students to the same place -- compilation of a screening file by the school's AART, with the screening file to be considered by the local screening committee.

They do a very good job at it. The use an ability test as one prong, observed behaviors as the other prong. But thier experience is the behavior (represented by the gbrs) is as important as the scores.
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Neither the CogAT nor NNAT are screening tests.