Anonymous wrote:18:09 - no you are the only man whose mere existence bothers me. Sounds like you would be the type to bother me anywhere, not just at an infertility clinic.

And why, may I ask, on a Sunday evening are you commenting on this forum. You should be either a) watching a football game or b) doing work at your very large DC firm.

+1

I've only brought my mom with me a couple of times for HSGs b/c they hurt me so badly and I needed someone to drive me home b/c I've taken a Valium.

Amen 18:43. My thoughts exactly.

18:09 - no you are the only man whose mere existence bothers me. Sounds like you would be the type to bother me anywhere, not just at an infertility clinic.

And why, may I ask, on a Sunday evening are you commenting on this forum. You should be either a) watching a football game or b) doing work at your very large DC firm.

Anonymous wrote:Tell ya what, I'll hang out outside of the room the men masturbate in because it's my right. We all know how comfortable that would be for the men, just acknowledge how uncomfortable it may be for other women to see a man when a probe was just inserted into her vagina. Perspective.

Yeah, I would LOVE to hear when another man has seen this happen to you. Seriously, if you guys are this self centered while TTC, you are going to be more so when you have a child. You want people to be considerate? Be considerate yourself.

jindc wrote:What if the man is the fertility patient? We are an MFI case and if my husband wants to be there every step of the way (out of guilt? Support) I don't think you should worry yourselves. He isn't thinking about you, and it is pretty weird to think he is somehow infringing on your rights. He is a patient too. But, he won't be there because he has to save every hour of leave for paternity leave (we hope sooner rather than later). Rude people in a waiting room are one thing, but don't begrudge a woman her support system - not everyone has a mom or female friend to be there.
To me, the IF community needs to be supportive than just online. Men are a part of IF and suffer emotionally too.

Most people don't bring "a mom or female friend." The vast majority are with either with a partner or flying solo. Daily blood draws and follicle counts get routine fairly quickly.

Tell ya what, I'll hang out outside of the room the men masturbate in because it's my right. We all know how comfortable that would be for the men, just acknowledge how uncomfortable it may be for other women to see a man when a probe was just inserted into her vagina. Perspective.

What if the man is the fertility patient? We are an MFI case and if my husband wants to be there every step of the way (out of guilt? Support) I don't think you should worry yourselves. He isn't thinking about you, and it is pretty weird to think he is somehow infringing on your rights. He is a patient too. But, he won't be there because he has to save every hour of leave for paternity leave (we hope sooner rather than later). Rude people in a waiting room are one thing, but don't begrudge a woman her support system - not everyone has a mom or female friend to be there.
To me, the IF community needs to be supportive than just online. Men are a part of IF and suffer emotionally too.

I'm a partner at a large DC law firm who finds the time to accompany my wife to every appointment she wishes. My wife and family to be come first for me. Sorry my mere existence bothers you. I really don't get the privacy point of some of the PPs. I have to go into a room and provide sperm samples with people walking by the door and women in the waiting room, and I don't complain.

My office has a big huge sign saying no talking on cell phones in waiting room. Most people should know to put their phones on silent or vibrate and take calls outside if absolutely necessary. That goes for men AND women.

You should complain - I do every time.

I have heard plenty of women on business calls in the waiting room as well. Should we ask them to leave as well?

PP - we are not talking about pregnancy ultrasounds. Calm down and use reading comprehension rather than defensiveness. If you want to talk about pregnancy ultrasounds, you are on the wrong board - we are talking about the pre-pregnancy stuff. And you are not the only one who paid for services - we ALL did.

13:32 - I agree with you. I've actually heard some men conducting business from the waiting room. That is rude and inconsiderate. If your wife is so adamant about you being there, then either put off business until later or learn waiting room etiquette and take your loud calls outside.

I'm a dad of high-risk twins. I was there for the once/month ultrasounds, but not for the every 2 week checkups. And, frankly, I have just as much right to be there as you do. We paid a lot for the services and I am glad that more reasonable people made the decision that I was not a second class citizen and not allowed in to see the medical exams on my high risk children. I didn't go into any exam rooms other than my wife's. Sheesh.

Anonymous wrote:9:33 - I actually get what you are saying. To me, it feels as uncomfortable as men hanging out outside of a dressing room. When I have to empty my bladder at my doctor's office in a bathroom that is located in the hall, I can't stand when I walk out and there is a man or men hanging out in chairs right outside the bathroom. If men come, I think they should be brought back only when there is a room for them to go into. Just my 2 cents.

I agree with this, too. It's . . . awkward and uncomfortable. Even in the waiting room, many (not all! don't flame me) of the couples engage in loud conversations while the rest of us are just trying to read and/or relax before we get called back.