Anonymous
11/24/2012 22:33
Subject: Re:I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:My son had a teacher WE hated. I say we because it took me months to even believe what a crazy B she was.
She called him by the wrong name for 2 months. I told her his name, I emailed her his name, I told the principal. Then we decided to call him her name ( as a joke ) at home to diffuse his frustration.
She told other kids in the class they were stupid. Literally used the word stupid and my son got detention for telling the teacher that was not a nice word to use.
She was so unorganized that the kids were late for lunch every day and she would cancel recess to finish teaching.
My son volunteered to speak at an event and she told him the kids in "ms liliy's" reading group will never speak in public - ever - not just for this event or in this school. My son is dyslexic. He did read at that event btw at ms lilly's insistence.
She told certain kids that they should never raise their hand in her class because it was a waste of time because she would not choose them.
She got the highest standardized test scores consistently every year.
OMG, that is horible. She probably gave the kids a prep for the test with the answers. Sadly, I have heard of more than one" teacher" doing this to save her own job. Corruption of the worst kind.
When a teacher says "if I have reached one child today I have made a difference in this world" i think - you have missed the boat for 29 other kids. She was definitely making a difference.
Anonymous
11/23/2012 17:38
Subject: Re:I hate my son's teacher
I am a lawyer. If my clients don't like my services, they can fire me and hire a new lawyer. They don't have to discuss it with me. They can call me or send me a note or just go hire someone else and the new lawyer can contact me. When my child is having a bad year in school because her teacher has 0 classroom control skills or repeatedly tells students to "shut up" or ridicules them openly in class or forgets to keep a record grades and gives kids zeroes instead of admitting that she lost a stack of tests, I can't fire that teacher and go find a new one. My kid is stuck for a school year. There are LOADS of bad lawyers. LOADS of them. Statistically, there are probably fewer bad teachers than there are bad lawyers, but lawyers are much easier to get rid off and they don't have as high an impact on kids.
Anonymous
11/23/2012 17:22
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
I totally support parents advocating for their children. Involved parents get the attention of teachers because there are teachers that are just not in tune with their profession. I do not mean they are bad, but just not in tune.
I also understand that parents who are too picky and judgmental are actually projecting their terrible parenting skills on their child's teacher. it is true, pure psychology.
as a parent and teacher it is very easy to recognize the 2.
I also understand that parents who are too picky and judgmental are actually projecting their terrible parenting skills on their child's teacher. it is true, pure psychology.
as a parent and teacher it is very easy to recognize the 2.
Anonymous
11/23/2012 16:45
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:21:27, are you suggesting that a person having a frustration with more than one person means they are the problem? Judging from your tone, this isn't the first time you've made judgmental comments on this forum. Have you considered that maybe the problem is not the people towards whom you feel superior, but you?
+1
Anonymous
11/23/2012 15:45
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Please spell out what makes a teacher awful. --a teacher who wants to know
Teachers who are disinterested or feel threatened by a parent's attempt to collaborate with them to get through to their child. I have had 3 teachers that I really felt were negative (all for the same kid) that really seemed to actively dislike parents. One that stood out was in second grade at Janney. I won't say the name but it was horrific. 2 of my kids went through this teacher. By the end of the first ear with the first kid, I finally gave up and it was just a total loss. I'm right there with you OP.
Anonymous
11/23/2012 10:26
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please spell out what makes a lawyer awful. --a teacher who wants to know
A few I've seen.
1. Laziness - no updates to let you know if your case is moving forward
2. Lack of enthusiasm, like each day is another day at the office.
3. playing favorites
I've seen so many good lawyers too, so those with the above traits above stick out like a sore thumb.
seriously, folks?
such a waste of energy on teachers
We do a job. Some of us shine; other don't. Same can be said for people in OTHER professions.[/quote
Bad teachers, bad lawyers, bad doctors, bad nannies, bad car mechanics happen.
Only with bad teachers and bad nannies are you placing your child under their supervision, all day long; and without being able to see what is going on.
Bad nannies you can fire.
Bad teachers, though, you need to work through the system; you can withdraw your child but otherwise you cannot just find a new teacher without going to a lot of effort.
Bad teachers DEFINITELY exist and if you haven't had one, you might not realize. Some truly awful ones are out there and they are mean to kids.
If they good test scores, they usually get ignored by administration, as long as not too many parents complain.
Anonymous
11/23/2012 10:12
Subject: Re:I hate my son's teacher
DC had a teacher who was way too easy. Everyone in the class got A's, maybe a couple of B's. To boost their self-esteem.
Hurt them a lot the following year with teachers that had higher standards.
Hurt them a lot the following year with teachers that had higher standards.
Anonymous
11/22/2012 16:58
Subject: Re:I hate my son's teacher
Here's what I think makes a teacher awful:
Killing a child's interest in learning
Negative peer pressure
Being a screamer
Being too obvious with favorites
Not being willing to teach off-book even when student-led
Telling children their answers are wrong when in reality they are right, but simply not what the answer key provided as the "right" answer
Refusing to answer children when they ask questions
Lack of ability to give creative punishments (as in, taking a high energy kid who misbehaved and benching them during recess as a punishment)
Killing a child's interest in learning
Negative peer pressure
Being a screamer
Being too obvious with favorites
Not being willing to teach off-book even when student-led
Telling children their answers are wrong when in reality they are right, but simply not what the answer key provided as the "right" answer
Refusing to answer children when they ask questions
Lack of ability to give creative punishments (as in, taking a high energy kid who misbehaved and benching them during recess as a punishment)
Anonymous
11/22/2012 11:11
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please spell out what makes a lawyer awful. --a teacher who wants to know
A few I've seen.
1. Laziness - no updates to let you know if your case is moving forward
2. Lack of enthusiasm, like each day is another day at the office.
3. playing favorites
I've seen so many good lawyers too, so those with the above traits above stick out like a sore thumb.
seriously, folks?
such a waste of energy on teachers
We do a job. Some of us shine; other don't. Same can be said for people in OTHER professions.
the teacher asked what some of us parents think makes a teacher awful. It's the schools and education discussion subforum.
Clearly I understood the question, but since you're so limited, let me explain my response.
There IS no magic to teaching. As in other professions, if you work hard by planning, meeting deadlines, keeping lines of communication open and knowing your "client/customer," you'll outdo your colleagues trying to coast by doing the minimum.
got it?
Anonymous
11/21/2012 20:43
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please spell out what makes a lawyer awful. --a teacher who wants to know
A few I've seen.
1. Laziness - no updates to let you know if your case is moving forward
2. Lack of enthusiasm, like each day is another day at the office.
3. playing favorites
I've seen so many good lawyers too, so those with the above traits above stick out like a sore thumb.
seriously, folks?
such a waste of energy on teachers
We do a job. Some of us shine; other don't. Same can be said for people in OTHER professions.
the teacher asked what some of us parents think makes a teacher awful. It's the schools and education discussion subforum.
Anonymous
11/21/2012 19:11
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please spell out what makes a lawyer awful. --a teacher who wants to know
A few I've seen.
1. Laziness - no updates to let you know if your case is moving forward
2. Lack of enthusiasm, like each day is another day at the office.
3. playing favorites
I've seen so many good lawyers too, so those with the above traits above stick out like a sore thumb.
seriously, folks?
such a waste of energy on teachers
We do a job. Some of us shine; other don't. Same can be said for people in OTHER professions.
Anonymous
11/21/2012 16:35
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:
+2
from a parent whose kids are taught not to blame the teachers
We teach our children to respect teachers and themselves.
Usually, those values are consistent with each other. In one instance, it was not and a teacher was having a seriously adverse impact on my child's education. We demanded a transfer and the school eventually obliged. At that time we found out complaints against this woman were legion. She called kids stupid in front of each other, refused to show up during her scheduled after-school hours, and declined to respond to any emails in which we sought to enlist her advice or guidance. We were newcomers, so we did not know the lengths to which other kids and families go to avoid this woman.
We have no regrets. Our kids have had dozens of teachers. In this one case we told the school the teacher was unacceptable and that they would place our child in a new class or we would withdraw our child and retain counsel. After we raised hell, a counselor told us about the teacher's history and said they are all waiting for her to retire or die. Either would have been acceptible to us; leaving our child in her class was not.
Until you come across a teacher like this, you really should not get on your high horse. And if you are a teacher, and support a colleague who behaves like this, you have no business in the profession, either.
Anonymous
11/21/2012 09:51
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just my sympathy, OP. I hate my son's teacher, too.
My sympathy as well. We had the k teacher from h**L! And a 3dr grade treacher we still think we can presecute for child abuse. Very difficult. We did not think that every child was special, but we did feel that no child deserved to be screamed at.
Here's a tip: When you're continually encountering teachers from hell, YOU and your child are the common denominator. You may be reaching the wrong conclusions.
+1
Signed,
a teacher (who doesn't hate students and is there because she wants them to learn)
+2
from a parent whose kids are taught not to blame the teachers
Anonymous
11/21/2012 09:17
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Please spell out what makes a teacher awful. --a teacher who wants to know
A few I've seen.
1. Laziness - like no feedback on the homework to let you know how your child is doing
2. Lack of enthusiasm, like each day is another day at the office.
3. playing favorites
I've seen so many good teachers too, so those with the above traits above stick out like a sore thumb.
Anonymous
11/21/2012 08:04
Subject: I hate my son's teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just my sympathy, OP. I hate my son's teacher, too.
My sympathy as well. We had the k teacher from h**L! And a 3dr grade treacher we still think we can presecute for child abuse. Very difficult. We did not think that every child was special, but we did feel that no child deserved to be screamed at.
Here's a tip: When you're continually encountering teachers from hell, YOU and your child are the common denominator. You may be reaching the wrong conclusions.
Very sweet thought. When I told the principal that I had ample evidence to prosecute, and that if she did not do something I (and the rest of the parents) would, suddenly that teacher "moved to another state"