Anonymous wrote:But what if they simply can't stay afloat? They are businesses, not charities . Do you hand over your money in large and painful amounts so you barely can stay afloat to people in your immediate community that you recognize are struggling? The equivalent is what you.may be asking of some businesses? You realize there are a ton of businesses struggling in this recession pre- mandate. I am.not sure how boycotting them helps. Maybe they will eventually.come around once they are sure they can simply stay open.....

That's not going to happen. 94% of large businesses (50 or more employees) already provide health insurance to their employees.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a pro-union Thx giving shopping list.

http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Other-News/Union-Made-Thanksgiving-Shopping-List

Damn unions, destroying our Twinkies. Thanks for posting a list to boycott

Not sure how to read your comment. You understand that the Executives of the company wanted to let it die, so they could sell it off and get their golden parachutes.... right?

Anonymous wrote:10:32, I'll help you guys find one. G-town cupcake does not oppose the employer mandate. Granted, theyr'e basically a mom and pop, RE, smaller than a small business, but more power to them.

well, they also get a tax credit to provide the insurance.

Anonymous wrote:Here's a pro-union Thx giving shopping list.

http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Other-News/Union-Made-Thanksgiving-Shopping-List

Damn unions, destroying our Twinkies. Thanks for posting a list to boycott

Here's a pro-union Thx giving shopping list.

http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Other-News/Union-Made-Thanksgiving-Shopping-List

Anonymous wrote:Is there something now wrong with being the loyal opposition? What about all this need to have a viable Republican party.

We've got news for you. It's not a business' job to go along to get along, nor do they have to keep their opinions to themselves. Something about petitioning one's government for redress of grievences says otherwise.

Populism is no way to govern my friends.

Explain to me where you see the "loyal" in this sort of opposition. And do you truly think millionaires whining about being slightly inconvenienced by their employees' need for healthcare is what the founding fathers meant by redress of grievances? The First Amendment gives them the right to complain; it also gives us the right to call them the selfish asses they are.

Is there something now wrong with being the loyal opposition? What about all this need to have a viable Republican party.

We've got news for you. It's not a business' job to go along to get along, nor do they have to keep their opinions to themselves. Something about petitioning one's government for redress of grievences says otherwise.

Populism is no way to govern my friends.

Anonymous wrote:But what if they simply can't stay afloat? They are businesses, not charities . Do you hand over your money in large and painful amounts so you barely can stay afloat to people in your immediate community that you recognize are struggling? The equivalent is what you.may be asking of some businesses? You realize there are a ton of businesses struggling in this recession pre- mandate. I am.not sure how boycotting them helps. Maybe they will eventually.come around once they are sure they can simply stay open.....

Obviously a business has to charge what it must to pay the bills AND be profitable.

What a business does NOT have to do is have the CEO go around on TV talking about the various ways in which they plan to "take it out of the hides" of customers and/or workers. If Denny's or Papa Johns raised their prices 14 cents a pizza, no one would even notice. If Denny's and Papa Johns go around talking about how they are going to be the biggest dicks they can about it, because they are bitter, and THEY WANT YOU TO KNOW, and see, here's how I am going to make everyone around me suffer for electing that damn Kenyan socialist (again)... that's just bad business.

Do your patiotic duty and find a way to make it work. Maybe one less drawbridge for the redesign of the Castle? One less dragon in the moat?

But what if they simply can't stay afloat? They are businesses, not charities . Do you hand over your money in large and painful amounts so you barely can stay afloat to people in your immediate community that you recognize are struggling? The equivalent is what you.may be asking of some businesses? You realize there are a ton of businesses struggling in this recession pre- mandate. I am.not sure how boycotting them helps. Maybe they will eventually.come around once they are sure they can simply stay open.....

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Anonymous wrote:None. Have you ever taken a business class? Stupid question.

Actually, I am the Director of Finance at an organization which pays 100% of our employees health care premiums.

If a restaurant comes out and makes a statement similar to PP business owner who pays 60% of her employees premiums, they'd have a customer for life in me. And I believe, many others feel the same way.

A corporation can make a brand - and market themselves - out of being a good corporate citizen.

In theory yes, but investors expect a return on their investment, not corporate citizenry. And before we get into a debate of corp. social investing (forget what the popular term is), institutional investors, eg pensions and foundations NEED a positive return on their investment.

Anonymous wrote:None. Have you ever taken a business class? Stupid question.

Actually, I am the Director of Finance at an organization which pays 100% of our employees health care premiums.

If a restaurant comes out and makes a statement similar to PP business owner who pays 60% of her employees premiums, they'd have a customer for life in me. And I believe, many others feel the same way.

A corporation can make a brand - and market themselves - out of being a good corporate citizen.

None. Have you ever taken a business class? Stupid question.

I'm a business owner with 4 employees including myself. We provide medical, dental (we pay 60% of the premiums). We pay 100% for life and disability and match 401k @5%. Why? It's the right thing to do and I want my employees around a long time. Guess what? I make less money than I could if I didn't offer these things, but I do ok and don't need to line my pockets at others' expense.

It's sad that there even as to be a mandate.

I'm not sure what you mean by supports it? All businesses will have to follow the law, and all businesses have to pay attention to their bottom line to stay in business. If they drop employees to part-time or raise prices it doesn't mean they don't support it. It means they have adjusted their business plan to stay afloat. I am puzzled by your question.

Anonymous wrote:I heard Apple supports it, along with Buy America requirements too....as does Warren Buffet's secretary, since not only does he pay her a salary that is taxed, (unlike himself), but he also denies her healthcare.

Uh, Warren Buffett's secretary has health care.