Also, this discussion is also relevant to the recent thread on how montessori schools can be out-of-ratio. Regardless of their method, a sufficient number of staff is needed to keep track of the kids when they go out.

MCCA -Bethesda
Date Regulations Finding Date Corrected
05/17/2012 13A.16.08.02B Each group of children did not have sufficient qualified staff assigned to it. 05/17/2012
05/17/2012 13A.16.10.04F Each electrical socket accessible to children in care was not plugged or capped. 05/17/2012
05/19/2011 13A.16.03.02A All applicable admission and documentation requirements were not met for each child. 06/16/2011

Wonders - Bethesda
Date Regulations Finding Date Corrected
10/14/2011 No Noncompliances Found

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on! How many of you leave your kids in the car, sleeping!

I personally would never do that, not even in my own driveway where I can see the car from the front window. But...are you comparing that to leaving a child at a park accidentally?

We do this about 3 times per week. Typically our son falls asleep in the car on the way home from daycare. If he hadn't napped much that day, the we let him sleep. The car is pulled into the garage, which is right next to the kitchen. We close the garage door, turn on the garage light (so he doesn't wake in darkness), I move the baby monitor to the car and we get dinner and such ready. As soon as he wakes, we're there in about 15 seconds to get him out of the car seat and bring him into the kitchen. If I didn't have a garage, I would not do this either.

Children in the shoe:
Date Regulations Finding
04/25/2012 13A.16.10.05B An unauthorized restricting device was applied to a resting child.
04/25/2012 13A.16.03.03C A copy of the licensing agency's consumer education pamphlet on child care was not displayed as required.
04/25/2012 13A.16.10.01A(3)(c) The plan was not practiced as required at all of the specified intervals.
04/25/2012 13A.16.10.02E First aid supplies were not maintained as required by OCC.
04/28/2011 No Noncompliances Found

Found this for Rock spring cc:
Date Regulations Finding Date Corrected
08/06/2012 13A.16.05.01A(2) The center's premises presented a health or safety hazard. 08/07/2012
08/06/2012 13A.16.07.06C An employee was left alone with an unrelated child in care without having successfully passed a criminal background check.
09/01/2011 13A.16.10.01C An emergency contact notice was not posted as required. 09/01/2011
09/01/2011 13A.16.10.04A Potentially harmful items were stored in a location accessible to children. 09/01/2011


Looking into other centers whom are mentioned often on this forum-I'll post what's found

On-site playground in enclosed gated area at our daycare and preschool. Never a problem.

The thing that is not being changed is the counting system. In pretty much every case it is an issue of a teacher incorrectly counting heads. It simply is not a reliable method. What happened to forming a line or a train (one kid was conductor, the other caboose everyone else in the middle) or always being paired with a buddy ( Jane and Jim, Annie and Arthur)?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are kind of fluke accidents and can happen anywhere. You can't really predict where and when people will have an off day or forget protocol - humans fail.

Just like most parents have accidentally left their kid somewhere at some point, I am sure that this happens a couple times a year in most cities.

Whoa, I highly doubt that "most parents" have accidentally left their kid somewhere. I've never done that and I can fairly guarantee that I never will.

Don't most of you have stories about the time your parents forgot you somewhere? Mixed up about who you were with type scenario?

Again, and again, most of the centers will hire people who cannot find job any where else. So not to hard to figure if you have ratio 1 caregiver to 3 toddlers and one is missing for more then 1 min, how normal person will handle it. One really has to be crazy not to remember about one of three kids she takes care.

Really? I'm supposed to believe that this could happen at any daycare? I seriously don't think so.

Any daycare that is losing kids is negligent. Period. We were at one of the centers above and left after noticing the sloppiness of the teachers, the lack of supervision at certain times. For instance, sometimes we would see a dozen or more children in the big playroom being left alone while the teachers walked down the hall to change a diaper. Or once even to help a parent find a lost item for her child.

I know it's difficult to keep track of 12-16 toddlers but some centers are just plain sloppy. Some times they are lucky, some times it comes back to bite them.

That isn't to say that this couldn't happen at a center that is very well run and strict about how they keep track of children and their safety but I do think the likelihood of that is much much less when you have a staff that actually does their job correctly.

A responsible parent would go to a center that had a history of losing kids!

Keeping track of one or two kids (and your OWN on top of that) is much different than keeping track of 16 or 20 toddlers. That's why keeping them on site is best.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are kind of fluke accidents and can happen anywhere. You can't really predict where and when people will have an off day or forget protocol - humans fail.

Just like most parents have accidentally left their kid somewhere at some point, I am sure that this happens a couple times a year in most cities.

Whoa, I highly doubt that "most parents" have accidentally left their kid somewhere. I've never done that and I can fairly guarantee that I never will.

every year there is a family that accidentally leaves the child in the car- and at the end of the day, the parent returns to the car to come to a tragic situation.

I am sure EVERY ONE of those families had said .... I can guarantee that I never will ...... do you want me to find the link from the situation from VA a few years ago?

Those rare, tragic situations that make the news do not equate to "most parents have accidentally left their kid somewhere at some point."

Anonymous wrote:Come on! How many of you leave your kids in the car, sleeping!

I personally would never do that, not even in my own driveway where I can see the car from the front window. But...are you comparing that to leaving a child at a park accidentally?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are kind of fluke accidents and can happen anywhere. You can't really predict where and when people will have an off day or forget protocol - humans fail.

Just like most parents have accidentally left their kid somewhere at some point, I am sure that this happens a couple times a year in most cities.

Whoa, I highly doubt that "most parents" have accidentally left their kid somewhere. I've never done that and I can fairly guarantee that I never will.

every year there is a family that accidentally leaves the child in the car- and at the end of the day, the parent returns to the car to come to a tragic situation.

I am sure EVERY ONE of those families had said .... I can guarantee that I never will ...... do you want me to find the link from the situation from VA a few years ago?