Anonymous
09/14/2012 11:10
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
22% FRL/FARMS does not strike me as a particularly high rate. Putting aside the obvious fact that a lot of FARMS kids are great kids, would you feel better if you flipped the percentages and considered the fact that 78% of the kids at Dominion are not FARMS kids?
+1. There's a lot of shit going on at the low-FARM schools. Don't fool yourself.
I agree as well.
I would love to see a metric of how many girls have eating disorders in each school. There's something the low-FARM schools can win at.
Anonymous
09/13/2012 18:54
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Pp...is this an elementary school? I ask because I think High school is when you see more of a correlation between high FRM, and low achievement.
Anonymous
09/13/2012 18:41
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
That's not my perspective at all. My son's middle school is excellent, and the FRM percentage is about 50.
I can't be the only one who thinks this way because more and more kids are transferring in from out of boundary. No, it is not a gifted school.
Anonymous
09/13/2012 18:35
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
I would not want more than 20% of my children's friends to be so poor that they qualify for FARM.
Having to interact with these children on a daily basis will significantly impact my child's education
I definitely only want my child to see other children from the same SES - or above.
I know the really high income people probably do not want my child in the same class as their child's. We only make $350K a year and we drive older cars. We don't vacation to Europe, the Caribbean or go skiing at Alta. I know my children drag down the conversations to more common things like going on a vacation to see grandparents.
odd reply
despite your attempt at sarcasm
Anonymous
09/12/2012 19:29
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone who is poor and whose kid qualifies for free lunch, this offends me. She is on the honor roll, volunteers, is on a sports team, has good friends, and will be going to college. I understand people use statistics, especially for a purchase as large as a house, but I really hope people are not assuming all kids getting free or reduced lunches are slutty gangbangers who will corrupt their special snowflakes.
I'm sure your dd is lovely. But surely you understand that high percentages of FARMs are highly correlated with negative attributes that affect the school environment. That said, 22% is not a high percentage.
Well, low percentages of FRL/FARMS are highly correlated with negative attributes as well - students who drive nicer cars than their teachers; are more likley to use cocaine and other designer drugs; and are less likely to have ever worked a day in their lives before they graduate.
22% FRL/FARMS does not strike me as a particularly high rate. Putting aside the obvious fact that a lot of FARMS kids are great kids, would you feel better if you flipped the percentages and considered the fact that 78% of the kids at Dominion are not FARMS kids?
+1. There's a lot of shit going on at the low-FARM schools. Don't fool yourself.
Anonymous
09/12/2012 15:50
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone who is poor and whose kid qualifies for free lunch, this offends me. She is on the honor roll, volunteers, is on a sports team, has good friends, and will be going to college. I understand people use statistics, especially for a purchase as large as a house, but I really hope people are not assuming all kids getting free or reduced lunches are slutty gangbangers who will corrupt their special snowflakes.
I'm sure your dd is lovely. But surely you understand that high percentages of FARMs are highly correlated with negative attributes that affect the school environment. That said, 22% is not a high percentage.
Well, low percentages of FRL/FARMS are highly correlated with negative attributes as well - students who drive nicer cars than their teachers; are more likley to use cocaine and other designer drugs; and are less likely to have ever worked a day in their lives before they graduate.
22% FRL/FARMS does not strike me as a particularly high rate. Putting aside the obvious fact that a lot of FARMS kids are great kids, would you feel better if you flipped the percentages and considered the fact that 78% of the kids at Dominion are not FARMS kids?
Anonymous
09/12/2012 15:44
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:As someone who is poor and whose kid qualifies for free lunch, this offends me. She is on the honor roll, volunteers, is on a sports team, has good friends, and will be going to college. I understand people use statistics, especially for a purchase as large as a house, but I really hope people are not assuming all kids getting free or reduced lunches are slutty gangbangers who will corrupt their special snowflakes.
I'm sure your dd is lovely. But surely you understand that high percentages of FARMs are highly correlated with negative attributes that affect the school environment. That said, 22% is not a high percentage.
Anonymous
09/12/2012 15:44
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone who is poor and whose kid qualifies for free lunch, this offends me. She is on the honor roll, volunteers, is on a sports team, has good friends, and will be going to college. I understand people use statistics, especially for a purchase as large as a house, but I really hope people are not assuming all kids getting free or reduced lunches are slutty gangbangers who will corrupt their special snowflakes.
Well, you can be offended all you want and I'm sure your DD is lovely... its not a discussion that is being held on an individual basis.
Lower performing schools have higher rates of FARMS. That is what OP wants to discuss not the individual achievement of one kid that gets free lunch.
That being said, OP, I am familiar with the area, look at the Potomac Falls district. You may also get more info from the VA public school threads.
Exactly, I went to a HIGH FARMS school and made it out thank God. However,
A) I was inches away many times of my life taken the wrong path.
B) I would be in a better position today if I was in a an environment with those with a higher cultural level.
You may not like it but thats the reality of the word we live in.
Anonymous
09/12/2012 15:39
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
BS!
denial
Wow! our school is 40% FRM and I do not consider it horrible. In fact it's won a Governors Excellence Award and most recently an Board of Education Excellence Award. Get your facts straight, what are your sources??
name the school
Not PP, but this is too easy...
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/02158.pdf
Anonymous
09/12/2012 14:21
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Go for Potomac Falls
Anonymous
09/12/2012 11:33
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
BS!
denial
Wow! our school is 40% FRM and I do not consider it horrible. In fact it's won a Governors Excellence Award and most recently an Board of Education Excellence Award. Get your facts straight, what are your sources??
Might be a good school, but I wouldn't send my kids to a 40% FRM school simply because I wouldn't want them in that SES environment. It's highly unlikely that the majority of those families would necessarily share cultural background and values w/my family. Sounds terrible, but it's the truth.
As for OP, I'd also look at the ESL levels at the schools.
For the PP who was talking about the vacations in Europe and ski trips, I missed that you were kidding. Shows you were we fall, I guess.
It sounds naive. If you feel this strongly about having families with the same SES, you should attend a private school.
Anonymous
09/12/2012 11:24
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
BS!
denial
Wow! our school is 40% FRM and I do not consider it horrible. In fact it's won a Governors Excellence Award and most recently an Board of Education Excellence Award. Get your facts straight, what are your sources??
Might be a good school, but I wouldn't send my kids to a 40% FRM school simply because I wouldn't want them in that SES environment. It's highly unlikely that the majority of those families would necessarily share cultural background and values w/my family. Sounds terrible, but it's the truth.
As for OP, I'd also look at the ESL levels at the schools.
For the PP who was talking about the vacations in Europe and ski trips, I missed that you were kidding. Shows you were we fall, I guess.
Anonymous
09/12/2012 11:17
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
BS!
denial
Wow! our school is 40% FRM and I do not consider it horrible. In fact it's won a Governors Excellence Award and most recently an Board of Education Excellence Award. Get your facts straight, what are your sources??
name the school
Anonymous
09/12/2012 11:12
Subject: Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:20% is the threshold, anything higher and the schools will be horrible.
BS!
denial
Wow! our school is 40% FRM and I do not consider it horrible. In fact it's won a Governors Excellence Award and most recently an Board of Education Excellence Award. Get your facts straight, what are your sources??
Anonymous
09/12/2012 10:59
Subject: Re:Free/Reduced Meals 22%?
Ha Ha. Her question is valid regardless of how you want to make fun of it.