Hmmm, anyone find it interesting that right after the Dems removed "God" from the wording (and booed "God"), they had to move Obama's speech inside for fear of lightening?!? Ha ha ha ha haa ha. . .

Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, they would kick Thomas Jefferson and John Adams out. Those two men definitely did their best to make sure that this country was not a theocracy.

Yeah, those nazis

haha j/k

Certainly Obama in 2008 was tougher toward Iran than Hillary was, and both were plenty tough talking back then.

Umm, wrong PP - Obama was talking engagement in 2008 and Hillary slammed him for it. Never mind, it's all water under the bridge now and neither Obama's engagement or Hillary's sanctions have gotten us any closer to a solution on Iran. And btw Romney talks a lot tougher, but I guarantee you that in office he will pursue effectively the same policy toward Tehran as Obama has. Truth is that Iran presents a lousy problem with no clear or easy way to resolve it.

Forgive the hijack here. Back to the usual programming. I thought that platform discussion was an embarassment to all of us. I can see why they wanted to add the language (even if I don't agree with the substance, it's good politics.) But once you're in a situation where the process has gone awry (e.g., nothing close to 2/3 support in a voice vote), don't try to deny reality on national TV. Really really badly handled.

Anonymous wrote:Please explain to me why God is absolutely necessary in a party platform. We aren't a theocracy. God isn't in the Constitution. Our founding fathers were not all highly religious, no matter what the idiots try to tell you - and guess what? I learned that in a Catholic school.

I'm sorry, but this is BULLSHIT. I'm not anti-God, but I am tired of this "you must always talk about God or you aren't a true American" mindset.

Yeah, they would kick Thomas Jefferson and John Adams out. Those two men definitely did their best to make sure that this country was not a theocracy.

Im a dem and while I felt not mentioning god was more of an effort to counter the jesus thumping on the right more than anything (and I disagree with the move in general. We need to realize we have religious people in the party just the same as we have non-believers), I think the move was a total cave.

Not only was it a cave, the entire process to amend the platform was an embarrassment. Stick to your damn guns or dont make the original call at all. And it sounds like the "nays" had it all three times meaning it should have gone to a delegate vote but that would have looked even worse.

Bottom line, the party caved (again) and this is what bothers me most about the party sometimes. They go out on a limb on issues (even ones I may disagree with) and cave over pressure. Obama does that nonsense and so did our leaders in congress when we ran things.

and no im not changing my vote. just venting on how stupid this episode was

Please explain to me why God is absolutely necessary in a party platform. We aren't a theocracy. God isn't in the Constitution. Our founding fathers were not all highly religious, no matter what the idiots try to tell you - and guess what? I learned that in a Catholic school.

I'm sorry, but this is BULLSHIT. I'm not anti-God, but I am tired of this "you must always talk about God or you aren't a true American" mindset.

The argument that the democratic is anti-God and anti-Jewish can now be made. The true colors of a constituency can be seen by their majority vote in the video.

Anonymous wrote:Used to be the Republican Party was more critical of Israel and the Democrats were in the tank for Israel. Now the Republicans are all enthralled with Israel and the Democrats are shifting away - but looks like they couldn't bear making a genuine shift.

I wish someone would show some judgment here. Romney's starting to scare me. I think if he is president we could end up at war with Iran just to make his old pal Bibi Netanyahu happy.

And yet I heard Democrats bragging that their platform was tougher toward Iran's nuculear ambitions than the Republicans. Certainly Obama in 2008 was tougher toward Iran than Hillary was, and both were plenty tough talking back then.

I wanted to throw things at my TV this morning when the R commentators were babbling on about Israel. Really? Does no one remember 2000 when they were all up in arms over Lieberman?

Come on Stewart and Colbert - roll tape!

I thought this exercise in PC was ridiculous, but nowhere near as significant as the hyper pro-life position espoused by the GOP platform.

I did think Villaraigosa was pretty inventive, taking the vote until he was certain two-thirds had voted for it -- cumulatively.

Ugh, this made me sick b/c there was obviously NOT a 2/3 majority!

I completely reject that God is a part of our national identity, and I thought my home was with the Democratic party. This is just one more example of the crazy, wacko religious Right pushing Dems towards the right to keep up.

Anonymous wrote:I just changed my vote to Romney, that was a disgusting display. There is no place for that in the Democratic party. And Politico has already reported that Obama knew about the lack of inclusion of God.

Really, who are you fooling. That was always your intention. By the way, whose God should the democratic party serve. My God or your God?

Anonymous wrote:Israel is not part of the United States and it should not be represented in Congress, nor should it be included in any U.S. political party platform. Religion is a highly private and personal experience which should not be politicized.

Be loyal Americans and do not allow religious demagoguery to sway you into casting your vote against your own self interest.

Yet, Israel always bring the United States to its knees. I must admit, I do not understand the power they have over this country. Is it because the American Jewish community stick together and pour lots and lots of money into lining congressmen and women pockets that now congress is Israel's ho. What's the deal. Somebody explain it to me.

Amazing how much a few words from romney can make the dimocrats change their platform against the will of their own people. the party leaders obviously understand the democrat voters are really crazy

If the Republicans are going to say "They Hate God" then they have hit rock bottom. It's just the end of the line for them.