Anonymous wrote:The question is not which politician lied. The question is which politician hasn't lied.

I like!

hmmm, can't really name any. Except maybe Jimmy Carter?

Anonymous wrote:The question is not which politician lied. The question is which politician hasn't lied.

That would seem to be the Republican answer these days: everyone has told a lie so the truth no longer matters, everyone is equal. It's factual communism.

Anonymous wrote:The GM plant closed its SUV production in 2008 but its truck production was still functioning and didnt close until April of 2009

Bzzzz. Nice try. They had a. Small remaining batch that completed in the first 3 months of the year but the plant ckosure was already announced.

Don't even try if you are going to come with halfassed responses. You will be fact checked.

The question is not which politician lied. The question is which politician hasn't lied.

Anonymous wrote:The GM plant closed its SUV production in 2008 but its truck production was still functioning and didnt close until April of 2009

Yes, it was completing an order for Isuzu trucks. The GM line closed in December 2008. Only something like 75 people were finishing the Isuzus. The decision to close once the Isuzus were finished had already been made before Obama became President. Even the Republicans have changed their talking point and the new one is that Obama has not reopened the plant. Even they accept that it was closed prior to his administration.

The GM plant closed its SUV production in 2008 but its truck production was still functioning and didnt close until April of 2009

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Ryan also claimed in an interview many years ago that he had a black girlfriend who was a "childhood sweetheart."

Reporters have asked his high school and college friends, as well as a professor in college he was very close to about this, and none of them ever remember him dating a black woman.

Hmmmm. Could he have lied in an attempt to curry favor with black voters? Hope reporters dig deeper on this one.

No. This one is actually true. She came out and confirmed it. Google Deneeta Pope.

Yes I see, the cheerleader. He called her his sweetheart and she said they weren't serious.

I was disappointed to learn that people would question such a simple thing as whether he dated a black woman. Now that everyone did their fact checking, I'm disappointed that he exaggerated the relationship. If the marathon time is a fibb too (and byte I am the poster trying o give him the benefit of the doubt) I am going to think of him as a fibber.

Btw she did time. Not when he knew her but an odd detail to the story.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/01/paul-ryan-ex-girlfriend-deneeta-pope-indicted-by-federal-government-for-fraud-guilty-prison/

While Deeta Pope is certainly pretty, she, like Ryan, doesn't seem to have a penchant for being the most truthful person.

Anonymous wrote:Paul Ryan also claimed in an interview many years ago that he had a black girlfriend who was a "childhood sweetheart."

Reporters have asked his high school and college friends, as well as a professor in college he was very close to about this, and none of them ever remember him dating a black woman.

Hmmmm. Could he have lied in an attempt to curry favor with black voters? Hope reporters dig deeper on this one.

No. This one is actually true. She came out and confirmed it. Google Deneeta Pope.

Paul Ryan also claimed in an interview many years ago that he had a black girlfriend who was a "childhood sweetheart."

Reporters have asked his high school and college friends, as well as a professor in college he was very close to about this, and none of them ever remember him dating a black woman.

Hmmmm. Could he have lied in an attempt to curry favor with black voters? Hope reporters dig deeper on this one.

15 WAYS THE PRESS CALLED RYAN A LIAR

1. "GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan took some factual shortcuts during the Republican convention when he attacked President Barack Obama." (Cal Woodward and Jack Gillum at The Associated Press)
2. "It was just one of several striking and demonstrably misleading elements of Ryan's much-anticipated acceptance speech." (Ryan Grim at The Huffington Post)
3. "Ryan misleads on GM plant closing in hometown: Paul Ryan appeared to suggest that President Obama was responsible for the closing of a GM plant in Ryan’s hometown of Janesville, Wisc. That's not true." (Glenn Kessler at The Washington Post)
4. "Ryan's misleading speech... was part introduction of himself and his small-town origins, part testimonial to his running mate and — in largest part — a slashing and, in many elements, misleading indictment of President Obama as both a spent force and a threat to American freedom." (The editorial board at The Washington Post)
5. "Paul Ryan's factually shaky Republican convention speech... is getting slammed for some pretty heavy inaccuracies." (Brett LoGiurato at Business Insider)
6. "Paul Ryan's headlining speech at the GOP convention in Tampa Wednesday night touched on many of the election's defining issues. But it was also filled with prevarications." (Brian Beutler at Talking Points Memo)
7. "Paul Ryan is the newest new Nixon, a moocher belied." (Charles P. Pierce at Esquire)
8. "Paul Ryan's Medicare doublespeak." (Brian Fung at The Atlantic)
9. "I'd like to talk, instead, about what Ryan actually said — not because I find Ryan's ideas so objectionable, although I do, but because I thought he was so brazenly willing to twist the truth." (Jonathan Cohn at The New Republic)
10. "Paul Ryan's acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements." (Robert Farley at USA Today)
11. "Rep. Paul Ryan stretched some truths Wednesday night when he accepted the Republican Party's 2012 vice presidential nomination..." (Mark Memmott at NPR)
12. "Ryan's speech veered from empty rhetoric to outright distortion, with little in between." (Jean MacKenzie at Global Post)
13. "The speech didn't require policy expertise, particularly. Indeed, an expert might feel compelled to avoid the series of inconsistencies and contradictions that were woven through Ryan's jeremiad." (John Dickerson at Slate)
14. "I marked at least seven or eight points I'm sure the fact checkers will have some opportunities to dispute if they want to go forward, I'm sure they will." (Wolf Blitzer at CNN)
15. "We were jotting down points. There will be issues with some of the facts. But it motivated people." (Erin Burnett at CNN)
Sources: The Associated Press, The Atlantic, Business Insider, Esquire, Fox News, Global Post, The Huffington Post, National Review, The New Republic, NPR, Slate (2), TalkingPointsMemo (2), USA Today, The Washington Post (2) (3)