Anonymous
07/19/2012 13:46
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Don't know if anything has changed, but when I was applying to colleges about 10 years ago, Hamilton was known to New Englanders as the place where rich kids go when they couldn't get in anywhere else. It was not well-respected, but again, things may be different now.
The college admissions picture can change a lot in 10 years and a good strategic marketing campaign can make a big difference in a school's selectivity. Look at Wash U for an example -- over the past decade it has become a target school for many kids from this area who are on the cusp at Ivy-level schools. As a result, it's filled with strivers and has very impressive exmissions stats for law and med schools. Hamilton is similarly a back-up for kids who don't quite edge into Williams/Amherst/Bowdoin/Middlebury (the NESCAC schools), but these are definitely not kids who "couldn't get in anywhere else".
Anonymous
07/19/2012 12:50
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Don't know if anything has changed, but when I was applying to colleges about 10 years ago, Hamilton was known to New Englanders as the place where rich kids go when they couldn't get in anywhere else. It was not well-respected, but again, things may be different now.
It is. Hobart & William Smith holds that title now.
Anonymous
07/19/2012 11:57
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Don't know if anything has changed, but when I was applying to colleges about 10 years ago, Hamilton was known to New Englanders as the place where rich kids go when they couldn't get in anywhere else. It was not well-respected, but again, things may be different now.
Anonymous
07/16/2012 22:46
Subject: Re:Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good school but note that NY is not in New England.
Feels New England though.
I don't know what this means.
Regardless, New York is not part of New England.
NESCAC - New England Small Colleges Athletic Conference.
PP here. I know what NESCAC means. What I was referring to is the statement "feels New England though" - I don't know what that means. I don't know what "feels New England" means.
Hamilton is not in New England.
New England feel I think many might agree means:
nearby mountainous terrain, fall colors, waterways/lakes, hiking trails, pine trees, leafy tree canopy, historic vibe, 2 story clapboard colonials, farmhouses, quaint mom and pop Main Street.
Agree with the poster about UConn. In New England but no New England vibe. Hamilton has a New England Vibe. Hobart and William Smith (Geneva, New York) has a New England vibe too.
Anyone know what the exmissions to law schools etc. is like coming from this school?
Anonymous
07/16/2012 15:24
Subject: Re:Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good school but note that NY is not in New England.
Feels New England though.
I don't know what this means.
Regardless, New York is not part of New England.
NESCAC - New England Small Colleges Athletic Conference.
PP here. I know what NESCAC means. What I was referring to is the statement "feels New England though" - I don't know what that means. I don't know what "feels New England" means.
Hamilton is not in New England.
New England feel I think many might agree means:
nearby mountainous terrain, fall colors, waterways/lakes, hiking trails, pine trees, leafy tree canopy, historic vibe, 2 story clapboard colonials, farmhouses, quaint mom and pop Main Street.
Agree with the poster about UConn. In New England but no New England vibe. Hamilton has a New England Vibe. Hobart and William Smith (Geneva, New York) has a New England vibe too.
Anonymous
07/16/2012 14:44
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
UConn is in New England, but doesn't feel New England with 16,000 undergrads and a gym to fit them all. Hamilton has the small school New England feel. -not the original commenter, but someone who understands just what she meant.
Anonymous
07/16/2012 12:33
Subject: Re:Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good school but note that NY is not in New England.
Feels New England though.
I don't know what this means.
Regardless, New York is not part of New England.
NESCAC - New England Small Colleges Athletic Conference.
PP here. I know what NESCAC means. What I was referring to is the statement "feels New England though" - I don't know what that means. I don't know what "feels New England" means.
Hamilton is not in New England.
Anonymous
07/12/2012 07:33
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You certainly shouldn't let it bother you because anyone who knows anything about colleges knows the NESCAC schools (Amherst, Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Williams, Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts (no longer a liberal arts schools but still a member of NESCAC, and Conn College) and other highly selective liberal arts schools such as Pomona, Carleton, Wellesley, Claremont McKenna, Haverford, Davidson, Washington and Lee, Vassar, Harvey Mudd, Grinnell, Smith, Colgate, Oberlin, Bryn Mawr, Macalester, Colorado College, University of Richmond, Bucknell, Holy Cross, Mt. Holyoke, Scripps, Barnard, Kenyon, Sewannee.
When I used to hire recent college grads I preferred liberal arts grads over big state U grads by a mile. They are more well-rounded (most liberal arts schools have a core curriculum that requires students to take a broad range of both science/quantitative and humanities courses which require intellectual rigor and writing skills) which leads to being able to think outside the box and having a higher level of general knowledge and cultural literacy. They are far less "applied" thinkers than those who major in professional programs (business, communications, etc) at the undergraduate level and far, far better writers. That's not to say that big state U doesn't have these kinds of thinkers but you can pretty much count on it if a graduate is from one of the selective liberal arts colleges.
Not my experience as someone who has hired from both state schools and private LACs, but then again I'm probably not as big a name dropper as you seem to be.
If it's manners you're concerned with, name-calling is usually frowned upon. I also did say "that's not to say that big state U doesn't have these kinds of thinkers" . My point is that non pre-professional education is getting bad press this days and this model of education certainly has its benefits.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 19:31
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You certainly shouldn't let it bother you because anyone who knows anything about colleges knows the NESCAC schools (Amherst, Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Williams, Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts (no longer a liberal arts schools but still a member of NESCAC, and Conn College) and other highly selective liberal arts schools such as Pomona, Carleton, Wellesley, Claremont McKenna, Haverford, Davidson, Washington and Lee, Vassar, Harvey Mudd, Grinnell, Smith, Colgate, Oberlin, Bryn Mawr, Macalester, Colorado College, University of Richmond, Bucknell, Holy Cross, Mt. Holyoke, Scripps, Barnard, Kenyon, Sewannee.
When I used to hire recent college grads I preferred liberal arts grads over big state U grads by a mile. They are more well-rounded (most liberal arts schools have a core curriculum that requires students to take a broad range of both science/quantitative and humanities courses which require intellectual rigor and writing skills) which leads to being able to think outside the box and having a higher level of general knowledge and cultural literacy. They are far less "applied" thinkers than those who major in professional programs (business, communications, etc) at the undergraduate level and far, far better writers. That's not to say that big state U doesn't have these kinds of thinkers but you can pretty much count on it if a graduate is from one of the selective liberal arts colleges.
Not my experience as someone who has hired from both state schools and private LACs, but then again I'm probably not as big a name dropper as you seem to be. [/quote
So is that to say then that the LACs grads were lacking? Didn't have the requsite skillsdue to shortcomings in the LACs curriculum?
Anonymous
07/11/2012 15:12
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:
You certainly shouldn't let it bother you because anyone who knows anything about colleges knows the NESCAC schools (Amherst, Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Williams, Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts (no longer a liberal arts schools but still a member of NESCAC, and Conn College) and other highly selective liberal arts schools such as Pomona, Carleton, Wellesley, Claremont McKenna, Haverford, Davidson, Washington and Lee, Vassar, Harvey Mudd, Grinnell, Smith, Colgate, Oberlin, Bryn Mawr, Macalester, Colorado College, University of Richmond, Bucknell, Holy Cross, Mt. Holyoke, Scripps, Barnard, Kenyon, Sewannee.
When I used to hire recent college grads I preferred liberal arts grads over big state U grads by a mile. They are more well-rounded (most liberal arts schools have a core curriculum that requires students to take a broad range of both science/quantitative and humanities courses which require intellectual rigor and writing skills) which leads to being able to think outside the box and having a higher level of general knowledge and cultural literacy. They are far less "applied" thinkers than those who major in professional programs (business, communications, etc) at the undergraduate level and far, far better writers. That's not to say that big state U doesn't have these kinds of thinkers but you can pretty much count on it if a graduate is from one of the selective liberal arts colleges.
Not my experience as someone who has hired from both state schools and private LACs, but then again I'm probably not as big a name dropper as you seem to be.
Anonymous
07/11/2012 10:56
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:I'm the Hamilton grad again. A large percentage of Hamilton students are from the NY/NJ/CT area (and 2nd is probably Boston/New England)...In our area, I find that people who "know" liberal arts schools know of Hamilton but people in this area who tend to focus on big schools (UVA/UMD/Georgetown) have often not heard of Hamilton. This doesn't bother me as I know the value in a small, liberal arts education but this might bother some...
You certainly shouldn't let it bother you because anyone who knows anything about colleges knows the NESCAC schools (Amherst, Bowdoin, Wesleyan, Williams, Bates, Colby, Hamilton, Middlebury, Trinity, Tufts (no longer a liberal arts schools but still a member of NESCAC, and Conn College) and other highly selective liberal arts schools such as Pomona, Carleton, Wellesley, Claremont McKenna, Haverford, Davidson, Washington and Lee, Vassar, Harvey Mudd, Grinnell, Smith, Colgate, Oberlin, Bryn Mawr, Macalester, Colorado College, University of Richmond, Bucknell, Holy Cross, Mt. Holyoke, Scripps, Barnard, Kenyon, Sewannee.
When I used to hire recent college grads I preferred liberal arts grads over big state U grads by a mile. They are more well-rounded (most liberal arts schools have a core curriculum that requires students to take a broad range of both science/quantitative and humanities courses which require intellectual rigor and writing skills) which leads to being able to think outside the box and having a higher level of general knowledge and cultural literacy. They are far less "applied" thinkers than those who major in professional programs (business, communications, etc) at the undergraduate level and far, far better writers. That's not to say that big state U doesn't have these kinds of thinkers but you can pretty much count on it if a graduate is from one of the selective liberal arts colleges.
Anonymous
07/10/2012 22:31
Subject: Re:Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:What is this "value" of a small liberal arts college that you reference? Many today have real concerns about attending such institutions questioning whether one can have a rewarding career upon graduation. Does Hamilton have a good placment into graduate/law schools etc.?
Seriously? Google is your friend.
Anonymous
07/10/2012 22:25
Subject: Re:Hamilton College in NY
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good school but note that NY is not in New England.
Feels New England though.
I don't know what this means.
Regardless, New York is not part of New England.
NESCAC - New England Small Colleges Athletic Conference.
Anonymous
07/10/2012 21:49
Subject: Hamilton College in NY
I had many friends who went to big schools--I think back to cinderblock dorm rooms and huge lectures in which it truly didn't matter if they showed up for class or not. That is not the culture of most small liberal arts schools, Hamilton included. Professors have freedom to spend time educating the undergrads because they are not distracted by grad students or by as much of a push for research to be their first focus. As for grad school admissions, I don't know specifics but I assure you that people don't generally complain about exmissions, mostly as the alumni network is quite strong.
Anonymous
07/10/2012 21:38
Subject: Re:Hamilton College in NY
What is this "value" of a small liberal arts college that you reference?
Not the PP, but I graduated from Colgate and loved it, so I feel qualified to chime in on this larger point. A couple of major things: classes are small and taught by professors not grad assistants, and advisors know you by name.