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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Wellesley is ranked below Williams, but in the top 10. H-S barely makes top 100. Your point, premised on the comparability of Wellesley and H-S, makes no sense.

The admission rate at Wellesley is over 30%. That's much higher than at Williams or Yale. Just as at H-S, many students who otherwise might consider it cross it off their list because it's not co-ed.

When you're ready, please feel free to join the reality-based community.

The admissions rate at H-S is 64%, according to the Fiske Guide. When you're ready, join the logic-based community.

The fact that H-S has a higher admissions rate than Wellesley does not detract from the conclusion that both attract fewer applicants because they are single-sex institutions.

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Anonymous wrote:A distinction without a difference. Single sex is single sex. You are degrading women when you say it's different for "women".

There is a double standard - all-women's colleges and HBC are defended and all-male schools with primarily white students are attacked on this forum. Be that as it may, all these schools are at a recruiting disadvantage in 2012 compared to 1962.

Yes, women's colleges and HBCs are dinstinct from all-male schools. That's because women and African-Americans continue to experience discrimination in the workplace, while men do not. If women's colleges and HCBs are at a recruiting disadvantage, that doesn't negate the fact that those students who choose to attend those schools get an excellent education and a life-changing experience. H-S is at a recruiting disadvantage b/c it's a mediocre anchronism.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Wellesley is ranked below Williams, but in the top 10. H-S barely makes top 100. Your point, premised on the comparability of Wellesley and H-S, makes no sense.

The admission rate at Wellesley is over 30%. That's much higher than at Williams or Yale. Just as at H-S, many students who otherwise might consider it cross it off their list because it's not co-ed.

When you're ready, please feel free to join the reality-based community.

The admissions rate at H-S is 64%, according to the Fiske Guide. When you're ready, join the logic-based community.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Wellesley is ranked below Williams, but in the top 10. H-S barely makes top 100. Your point, premised on the comparability of Wellesley and H-S, makes no sense.

The admission rate at Wellesley is over 30%. That's much higher than at Williams or Yale. Just as at H-S, many students who otherwise might consider it cross it off their list because it's not co-ed.

When you're ready, please feel free to join the reality-based community.

Yes, Wellesley is ranked below Williams, but in the top 10. H-S barely makes top 100. Your point, premised on the comparability of Wellesley and H-S, makes no sense.

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This is not an apt comparison. Wellesley is ranked #6 among liberal arts colleges in the US News survey; H-S is ranked #94. Wellesley has a highly diverse student body, drawn from all over the country and throughout the world. Hampden-Sydney is a regional school.

I think you are sufficiently hung up on rankings that you missed the point.

Not hung up on ratings at all, but the gross disparity suggests that your point is invalid.

I don't think so. Like H-S and the remaining all-male schools, all-women's colleges still are automatically ruled out by many high schoolers. Wellesley is no exception; as good as it is, it's ranked lower than co-ed schools like Williams, and other all-women's colleges, such as Barnard, Smith and Mount Holyoke, are less prestigious than they used to be. Ask the women in Morningside Heights whether Columbia or Barnard has a better reputation, and you'll have your answer.

Seems you just want to put women on a pedestal, and those who attended Wellesley on the very top. Not buying it.

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This is not an apt comparison. Wellesley is ranked #6 among liberal arts colleges in the US News survey; H-S is ranked #94. Wellesley has a highly diverse student body, drawn from all over the country and throughout the world. Hampden-Sydney is a regional school.

I think you are sufficiently hung up on rankings that you missed the point.

Not hung up on ratings at all, but the gross disparity suggests that your point is invalid.

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Exactly - "whatever." It doesn't change the fact that all-women's colleges and HBCs are viewed by most high school students today as anachronisms.

I believe the conversation was about privilege, not high-school students' opinion of women's colleges and HBCUs.

The discussion is about H-S which, whether you like it or not, is viewed similarly today by many HS students as women's colleges and HBCUs.

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Exactly - "whatever." It doesn't change the fact that all-women's colleges and HBCs are viewed by most high school students today as anachronisms.

I believe the conversation was about privilege, not high-school students' opinion of women's colleges and HBCUs.

Many years ago, one of my friends got in there and a few other places. Asked him what he was going to do...you know what school you like best. He went through each school and came to Hampden Sydney and he said his father always calls it Sampden Hydney.

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Anonymous wrote:A distinction without a difference. Single sex is single sex. You are degrading women when you say it's different for "women".

There is a double standard - all-women's colleges and HBC are defended and all-male schools with primarily white students are attacked on this forum. Be that as it may, all these schools are at a recruiting disadvantage in 2012 compared to 1962.

http://tjlp.org/privilege101.pdf

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/

Exactly - "whatever." It doesn't change the fact that all-women's colleges and HBCs are viewed by most high school students today as anachronisms.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A distinction without a difference. Single sex is single sex. You are degrading women when you say it's different for "women".

There is a double standard - all-women's colleges and HBC are defended and all-male schools with primarily white students are attacked on this forum. Be that as it may, all these schools are at a recruiting disadvantage in 2012 compared to 1962.

http://tjlp.org/privilege101.pdf

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/

Anonymous wrote:A distinction without a difference. Single sex is single sex. You are degrading women when you say it's different for "women".

There is a double standard - all-women's colleges and HBC are defended and all-male schools with primarily white students are attacked on this forum. Be that as it may, all these schools are at a recruiting disadvantage in 2012 compared to 1962.

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This is not an apt comparison. Wellesley is ranked #6 among liberal arts colleges in the US News survey; H-S is ranked #94. Wellesley has a highly diverse student body, drawn from all over the country and throughout the world. Hampden-Sydney is a regional school.

I think you are sufficiently hung up on rankings that you missed the point.

A distinction without a difference. Single sex is single sex. You are degrading women when you say it's different for "women".