Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:57
Subject: Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree that NYC's system is much worse, and even the Tube in London is no great shakes anymore.
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
The unions and especially pensions ARE the problems. Drain money from the system and ask more from the riders. Still can't afford to pay for basic repairs.
+1 the biggest expenditures are union labor demanded pensions and benefits
Damn those Metro workers, they got health and pension benefits!!! Don't they know their place is at the bottom of the economic heap?! Now (wrings hands and snickers), if we only get the Supreme Court to roll back Obamacare, that'll really show those Metro workers!
Why shouldn't lazy slackers with attitude and a false sense of entitlement be at the bottom of the economic heap? Why should they have all the great benefits with little comparable education?
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:52
Subject: Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree that NYC's system is much worse, and even the Tube in London is no great shakes anymore.
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
The unions and especially pensions ARE the problems. Drain money from the system and ask more from the riders. Still can't afford to pay for basic repairs.
+1 the biggest expenditures are union labor demanded pensions and benefits
Damn those Metro workers, they got health and pension benefits!!! Don't they know their place is at the bottom of the economic heap?! Now (wrings hands and snickers), if we only get the Supreme Court to roll back Obamacare, that'll really show those Metro workers!
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:43
Subject: Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree that NYC's system is much worse, and even the Tube in London is no great shakes anymore.
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
The unions and especially pensions ARE the problems. Drain money from the system and ask more from the riders. Still can't afford to pay for basic repairs.
+1 the biggest expenditures are union labor demanded pensions and benefits
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:41
Subject: Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree that NYC's system is much worse, and even the Tube in London is no great shakes anymore.
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
The unions and especially pensions ARE the problems. Drain money from the system and ask more from the riders. Still can't afford to pay for basic repairs.
Thanks, now I have to wipe the spittle off my nice new MacBook Air.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:41
Subject: Re:Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:...then you've never been to Boston, NYC, and especially Tokyo.
My biggest beef is the cost for virtually no service at night, not enough service during rush hour, etc.
Here's the thing: are you willing to pay higher fares/taxes for better service?
Otherwise, this is like the people who complain about public schools and, in the same breath, argue we need to lower taxes. Sure, clean out Metro management. But at some point that's not enough. You need to hire higher-skilled, better-educated workers, which means higher salaries. And you need to do all that track maintenance that's been deferred for years, yes, for years.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:39
Subject: Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:I agree that NYC's system is much worse, and even the Tube in London is no great shakes anymore.
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
The unions and especially pensions ARE the problems. Drain money from the system and ask more from the riders. Still can't afford to pay for basic repairs.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:35
Subject: Re:Can of worms...
...then you've never been to Boston, NYC, and especially Tokyo.
My biggest beef is the cost for virtually no service at night, not enough service during rush hour, etc.
My biggest beef is the cost for virtually no service at night, not enough service during rush hour, etc.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:14
Subject: Re:Can of worms...
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:14
Subject: Re:Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:If people do not like it, then do not take the metro. Problem solved.
This. Stop whining, everybody. Sometimes I wonder about people who think the world has to be perfect, even when someone else is paying for it. Every aspect of their lives has to meet their 100% of their needs in every instant. If this is you, then Metro is never going to make you happy and you're better off driving into DC.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 13:09
Subject: Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:I wondered how long before the local brought up NY or the Northeast. No comparison. Let it go.
Because there is one and only one DC Metro and comparison is impossible?
Anonymous
06/10/2012 12:51
Subject: Re:Can of worms...
If people do not like it, then do not take the metro. Problem solved.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 12:42
Subject: Can of worms...
I wondered how long before the local brought up NY or the Northeast. No comparison. Let it go.
Anonymous
06/10/2012 12:15
Subject: Can of worms...
I think OP should travel more and see how amazing the metro is in several European countries
Anonymous
06/10/2012 12:13
Subject: Can of worms...
I agree that NYC's system is much worse, and even the Tube in London is no great shakes anymore.
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
It's ridiculous to complain about service at the same time you're slamming unions and high metro fares. Sure, maybe some part of the problem is bad management. But a whole lot more is bad training of metro employees and another biggie: lack of investment in infrastructure. The system is 30 years old now and a lot of maintenance is overdue. Guess what, geniuses: better training, better trained metro personnel, and infrastructure investment all mean more money!
Anonymous
06/10/2012 11:45
Subject: Re:Can of worms...
Anonymous wrote:For comparison--trains in India
What precisely is your point? That because things are so bad in emerging and developing nations we shouldn't ask for better from Metro?
OP, read Un-Suck Metro. There are enough frightening stories - and, worse, a total lack of appropriate response or change from Metro - that you'll start to see more problems.