Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 15:39     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!


If your child has high ability (not necessarily high achievement) there is no reason to "start working now." My dc scored above 140 on all 3 subtests, no prep. If you have to prep your kid doesn't need the program. That doesn't mean that prepped kids aren't smart, they are very bright too, just not in need of a different program than general ed.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 12:55     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:The problem with focusing on the tests is that leads to extensive test prep.


Study is a good thing.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 08:00     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:The problem with focusing on the tests is that leads to extensive test prep.


That's why the GBRS is so important.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 05:46     Subject: Cogat scoring question

The problem with focusing on the tests is that leads to extensive test prep.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 05:42     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!


Simply not true. Dd tested at 120 across the board, but 15 gbrs, and was accepted.


I've heard (on here) of some with 115 getting in.


You might be the exception. I haven't heard of this happening. But good for your DD, I am glad they looked at everything. Based on what I have seen this is not the norm. Your DD probably had high 120's straight across the board. Congratulations.


Huh? She said her DD tested at 120 - not the high 120's. And people have gotten in with even lower, like 115-118.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 02:07     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!


Simply not true. Dd tested at 120 across the board, but 15 gbrs, and was accepted.


I've heard (on here) of some with 115 getting in.


You might be the exception. I haven't heard of this happening. But good for your DD, I am glad they looked at everything. Based on what I have seen this is not the norm. Your DD probably had high 120's straight across the board. Congratulations.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 21:54     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!


[/list]Should be but unfortunatly this is not true. Here in lies the BIG ISSUE
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 19:56     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!


Simply not true. Dd tested at 120 across the board, but 15 gbrs, and was accepted.


I've heard (on here) of some with 115 getting in.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 19:52     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!


Simply not true. Dd tested at 120 across the board, but 15 gbrs, and was accepted.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 19:43     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Anonymous wrote:Just to weigh in on this discussion of "demonstration of abilities" has to take in the age of those screened. The reason (or at least what I heard) that FCPS screens all of its students at this age is because research demonstrates that if not all of the students are screened (but rather selected to be screened by teachers) the younger gifted kids are routinely not screened. I hope I'm making sense. For example, In my daughter's first grade class, the 2 students selected for the big award this year (excellence, etc) were the oldest boy and oldest girl in the class ---the boy turned 7 in the summer preceding 1st grade (red-shirted) and the girl turned 7 early Fall. The age differential really is big at this age (in so many ways) and the younger kids are at a huge disadvantage when it comes to the GBRS since a lot of cognitive processes are still developing.


Disagree, based on work shown or potential. Most schools do not award 1st graders, that is absurd!! All students are working hard. Some of the youngest kids were chosen for AAP at our school. They show ability to succeed. Test scores and GBRS have proven this.






Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 18:33     Subject: Cogat scoring question

Test scores are the only way your child is going to be accepted. You need very superior scores. If you have very superior scores, you pass the first round and they will look at the rest of the packet. If your scores are not high enough, I think you are done. AAP does not get determined by advanced academic strengths, but rather by potential for superior ability as determined by COGAT or NNAT. This is what the test scores try to point out. So, unfortunately, if your child does very well in school, it is not enough. They need to test extremely well. Start working now!