Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 14:26     Subject: Non-stick pans that last?

Another vote for cast iron here.

And to the PP who asked if its gross not to use soap. Well, no, its not gross at all. The pan gets fully heated every time its used, so no germs can live there. Its actually only a problem if you only use the pan very occasionally, as then the seasoning can become rancid.
Anonymous
Post 06/08/2012 11:56     Subject: Re:Non-stick pans that last?

I gave up on non-stick years ago for health reasons and also because they don't last, aren't non-stick for very long. Really, "non-stick" is a misnomer.

I went to cast iron and sometimes stainless steel. I don't have problems with sticking, I just had to learn new techniques. My most regularly used pan is a Lodge cast iron and it's become more "non-stick" over time, better and better. I fry eggs, cook omelettes, do potatoes, really everything in it. Some of the most important tips are to heat the pan FIRST, then add any oil if you're going to, and let that get hot. Never put food in the pan and then heat up the pan.

When I go into houses where food is cooking in "non-stick" pans I can smell the chemicals and it's so gross.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2012 16:27     Subject: Non-stick pans that last?

Secret to non-stick coating is to never use a scrubby pad to clean it. Soak in hot, soapy water and use a paper towel to wipe out the grime. Then wash in soapy water and rinse. I have cheap T-Fal pans and haven't had to replace them since I adopted this cleaning regime. I also have a cast iron pan but sometimes that thing is just too heavy to deal with.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2012 00:20     Subject: Re:Non-stick pans that last?

Cast iron is naturally non-stick when seasoned properly. New cast iron is anything but non-stick, and it can easily rust. Seasoning — rubbing oil or fat into the cast iron and subsequently heating it — fixes both problems. Unsaturated fats work best (unsaturated means that some of the carbons in the fatty acid chains contain reactive double bonds). Nineteenth century American cooks typically used lard because it was readily available and unsaturated enough to polymerize well, but almost any oil will work. When an unsaturated fat is heated to high temperatures, especially in the presence of a good catalyst like iron, it is broken down and oxidized, after which it polymerizes –joins into larger mega molecules the same way plastics do – and mixes with bits of carbon and other impurities. This tough, impermeable surface adheres to the pores and crevices in the cast iron as it is forming. The surface is non-stick because it is hydrophobic – it hates water. Water soluble proteins make foods stick to their pan; a hydrophobic surface prevents sticking. The bits of carbon in the seasoning may also act as an additional release agent
There is no quick way to fully season a cast iron pan; the surface of cast iron becomes slicker and blacker the more it is used. Though most cast iron today is sold “pre-seasoned,” this cursory seasoning protects against rust, but not against sticking. A good non-stick surface forms over time, with use. The oil polymer on a well-used piece of cast iron is built of many thin layers deposited over time. Thick layers can flake off in large pieces. Thin layers will remain adhered to the pan and will slough off microscopically. A true seasoned surface will only form properly at temperatures well in excess of the 350-375 degree F temperature that some manufacturers recommend for seasoning cast iron. Low temperatures do not completely polymerize and break down oil and will leave a brown, somewhat sticky pan instead of a black, non-stick one. 400-500 degrees F is the effective range for seasoning
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2012 00:12     Subject: Re:Non-stick pans that last?

Sorry that it didn't last for you. I've got the All-clad non-stick pan that came with a set that many friends chipped in to buy us for our wedding 10 years ago and the skillet is still going strong. I do pan fried tofu, potstickers, and fish and haven't had a problem. That, the stainless All-clad skillet, and my stainless steel Revereware pans are my main goto skillets and have been for many years.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2012 00:07     Subject: Non-stick pans that last?

You may need to change your recipe for fish and potatoes. I use a good quality pan with no problems. Get "cooking for geek" . It goes into the science of what happens when you cook.