Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that drug addicts don't have better treatment options in our country. Jailing them does little or nothing in the service of their recovery.

So true. And, once you have a criminal record, it's virtually impossible to get a job even when in treatment. It's a horrible cycle. I'm amazed when I hear a story of someone who is able to somehow get off drugs after decades of use and stay clean.

The cycle is so sad. My dad has been a small business owner for 25 years and employs a number of people with records. Some have been with him for 10+ years and are great employees. It is so sads that the only chance for a job for many ex-offenders is getting lucky enough to meet a sympathetic character like my dad. In 25 years, he's only ever had one employee steal or be unethical. And of course, it wasn't one of the ex cons!

MIL in and out for theft. And yes, I agree she should have learned after the first arrest. Or the second. Or the third...

Too many to name

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that drug addicts don't have better treatment options in our country. Jailing them does little or nothing in the service of their recovery.

This. I work with prison populations, and prison is the major mental health facility in the nation. There are few accessible, affordable, and effective treatment options in our society, so they end up in jail. By far, most have untreated or self-medicated mental health issues. I wish our society could/would commit to treatment and prevention so I'd be out of a job.

Wow, this is interesting. I had no idea. Do you happen to know if other countries have a different, more effective approach for identifying and treating criminality and mental health issues?

I have seen show on British jails-they are way more like rehab centers and actually treat the prisoners as opposed to just jailing them and letting them learn more tricks from each other

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a 25 year old cousin on my DH's side of the family. It was for dealing cocaine. He had a good childhood - really nice SAHM who breastfed him, successful professional Dad, lovely siblings, private schools. I don't know what went wrong, but we definitely think about him when raising our children.

I did not realize breastfed kids could end up in jail!

Hee hee.. mom should have formula fed and maybe he would not be in jail today.

Cousin for wearing white after labor day...

Seeing certain neighbors and their horrible attitudes, OP - I would bet their family members in jail are the LEAST of their worries!

I have a few family members who should be in jail. Unfortunately, they have *great* lawyers. Lots of people have indirectly suffered because of them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a 25 year old cousin on my DH's side of the family. It was for dealing cocaine. He had a good childhood - really nice SAHM who breastfed him, successful professional Dad, lovely siblings, private schools. I don't know what went wrong, but we definitely think about him when raising our children.

That made me laugh out loud. Sorry about your cousin though.

I can't believe I wasted my time BFing. I wouldn't have bothered if the lactation consultant hadn't promised me that it would prevent future criminality.

Anonymous wrote:We have a 25 year old cousin on my DH's side of the family. It was for dealing cocaine. He had a good childhood - really nice SAHM who breastfed him, successful professional Dad, lovely siblings, private schools. I don't know what went wrong, but we definitely think about him when raising our children.

That made me laugh out loud. Sorry about your cousin though.

My stepsister is currently in jail awaiting a trial for murder.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a 25 year old cousin on my DH's side of the family. It was for dealing cocaine. He had a good childhood - really nice SAHM who breastfed him, successful professional Dad, lovely siblings, private schools. I don't know what went wrong, but we definitely think about him when raising our children.

I did not realize breastfed kids could end up in jail!

Mom didn't drink organic milk.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a 25 year old cousin on my DH's side of the family. It was for dealing cocaine. He had a good childhood - really nice SAHM who breastfed him, successful professional Dad, lovely siblings, private schools. I don't know what went wrong, but we definitely think about him when raising our children.

It sounds like he was given a too perfect, happy life, where he wanted for nothing. He got bored and started taking risks to feel more alive. I really believe you shouldn't give your children too much early on. They really need to see what life is like for people who are struggling to survive. They need to learn compassion and empathy early.

Thank you for sharing. We have never before had such insight. Your sound advice will be given utmost consideration.

Wow, if you're the original PP, I can see why your family members turn to drugs. You don't need to be such a bitch to someone trying to offer you a different perspective.

For what it's worth, I can say (as someone who has tutored very wealthy children for over a decade) that they do often act out because they are bored and/or entitled. Not that most wealthy families are equipped to deal with either the boredom or the entitlement. They usually just endlessly bail the kid out until they get fed up, then the kid hits rock bottom. Better to show them the consequences of their actions early. But since you, PP, already knew that, I'm SHOCKED that it didn't turn out well for your cousin.

Anonymous wrote:We have a 25 year old cousin on my DH's side of the family. It was for dealing cocaine. He had a good childhood - really nice SAHM who breastfed him, successful professional Dad, lovely siblings, private schools. I don't know what went wrong, but we definitely think about him when raising our children.

Who notes whether or not a person was breastfed when addressing issues they have as an adult? Weirdo.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that drug addicts don't have better treatment options in our country. Jailing them does little or nothing in the service of their recovery.

This. I work with prison populations, and prison is the major mental health facility in the nation. There are few accessible, affordable, and effective treatment options in our society, so they end up in jail. By far, most have untreated or self-medicated mental health issues. I wish our society could/would commit to treatment and prevention so I'd be out of a job.

Wow, this is interesting. I had no idea. Do you happen to know if other countries have a different, more effective approach for identifying and treating criminality and mental health issues?