Anonymous wrote:My larger concern withe gbrs is it may favor the kids who score high on the verbal components of the Wisc/ coat. I think the kids more at risk of it not necessarily being a fair assessment for are the non-verbal/ quant kids. Even the 4 categories on the gbrs seem like they would skew toward those kids who excel in those types of intelligence. I'd low to hear from parents of kids who fit this profile and how they thought the gbrs reflected their kid.

I think you said this well, as my kid has more visual spatial and mathematical traits therefore the low GBRS, but then that is not fair that these type of kids are overlooked for their GBRS's.

My larger concern withe gbrs is it may favor the kids who score high on the verbal components of the Wisc/ coat. I think the kids more at risk of it not necessarily being a fair assessment for are the non-verbal/ quant kids. Even the 4 categories on the gbrs seem like they would skew toward those kids who excel in those types of intelligence. I'd low to hear from parents of kids who fit this profile and how they thought the gbrs reflected their kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Here comes my observation, sure to be flamed. Often the exceptionally gifted child (IQ above 145) comes with other issues that can be misconstrued by over-worked or under-trained teachers. That seemingly lazy, disengaged, self-absorbed, disruptive child could be the next Einstein (who probably would have scored a 2 on the GBRS ).

totally agree. this happened with my DC. teachers mistake raising your hand all the time for giftedness.

Teachers know a lot more than you think. My kid received a 16 on the GBRS and he hardly ever raises his hand. He totally zones out if the topic is not challenging for him, and he looks bored or even despondent at "carpet time". But the teacher noticed that when she pulled out something more complex he perked right up.

well my kid got a high GBRS too so we think it is an invaluable tool for assessing true giftedness, but then those whose offspring got low GBRS thinks it's subective, unfair, the product of an untrained teacher who doesn't know what the heck he/she is doing etc. Funny how that works isn't it.

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Anonymous wrote:Here comes my observation, sure to be flamed. Often the exceptionally gifted child (IQ above 145) comes with other issues that can be misconstrued by over-worked or under-trained teachers. That seemingly lazy, disengaged, self-absorbed, disruptive child could be the next Einstein (who probably would have scored a 2 on the GBRS ).

totally agree. this happened with my DC. teachers mistake raising your hand all the time for giftedness.

Teachers know a lot more than you think. My kid received a 16 on the GBRS and he hardly ever raises his hand. He totally zones out if the topic is not challenging for him, and he looks bored or even despondent at "carpet time". But the teacher noticed that when she pulled out something more complex he perked right up.

I think you have a grat chance with a high score like that. My child received a low score on the GBRS as well and was admitted with a IQ score lower then yours. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:Here comes my observation, sure to be flamed. Often the exceptionally gifted child (IQ above 145) comes with other issues that can be misconstrued by over-worked or under-trained teachers. That seemingly lazy, disengaged, self-absorbed, disruptive child could be the next Einstein (who probably would have scored a 2 on the GBRS ).

totally agree. this happened with my DC. teachers mistake raising your hand all the time for giftedness.

Absolutely. Because we as parents know far more about all gifted kids and their potential than teachers who have been trained to look for gifted traits and behaviors.

Anonymous wrote:Here comes my observation, sure to be flamed. Often the exceptionally gifted child (IQ above 145) comes with other issues that can be misconstrued by over-worked or under-trained teachers. That seemingly lazy, disengaged, self-absorbed, disruptive child could be the next Einstein (who probably would have scored a 2 on the GBRS ).

totally agree. this happened with my DC. teachers mistake raising your hand all the time for giftedness.

I do think there are a fair number of "undiscovered" gifted kids. The kids with the highest IQs are not necessarily the ones that get high grades. They are often dreamers, bad spellers, etc. The neat handwriting, perfect spelling little girls (and they are usually girls -- no bias here, I have all girls) are not necessarily the kids with the highest IQ. They will succeed in a traditional classroom and remain challenged. Sometimes it's the other kids, who are very bright (meaning high IQ), but for whatever reason, have not been engaged in the traditional classroom that really NEED the center. I know. I have one of those and one that's more like the more typical smart girls.

Anonymous wrote:2 outperform objective scores vs 1 dismal subjective score points to some sort of bias or prejudice methinks and no mother should be ashamed for wanting whats right for her child.

Thanks for agreeing with me. No mom can be pushy enough to do the right thing for their child.

2 outperform objective scores vs 1 dismal subjective score points to some sort of bias or prejudice methinks and no mother should be ashamed for wanting whats right for her child.

doing what's best for my kid and what she deserves.

That does not prove the AART is biased. Rather, it is possible that your snow flake chose not to display her brilliance in a manner consistent with giftedness behaviors, perhaps because she has a pushy mother who fixes everything for her.

or my child is exhibiting the gifted traits in school but the discriminatory AAART,teacher maybe just biased as in our
case, we have the Wisc to prove it.

Here comes my observation, sure to be flamed. Often the exceptionally gifted child (IQ above 145) comes with other issues that can be misconstrued by over-worked or under-trained teachers. That seemingly lazy, disengaged, self-absorbed, disruptive child could be the next Einstein (who probably would have scored a 2 on the GBRS ).

Still cannot understand the GBRS of 6 as the same child above has a DRA 0f 38 in 2nd grade that is way above grade level.