Anonymous
05/16/2012 15:02
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
That's why the Cluster Superintendent in McLean is seeking to change all of the curriculum in the pyramid -- because it is "exactly the same." LOL!
[list]Good luck with that.
http://lorton.patch.com/articles/curriculum-plan-raises-issues-of-equity-communication
http://www.fcps.edu/HaycockES/newsletters/March2012.pdf
http://www.fcps.edu/ChesterbrookES/files/byline/March_2012_Byline.pdf
[list]I had heard rumours of this and I am very happy to see this pilot happening. The way the AAP is set up now is exclusive and needs to be changed. Bringing Level IV accross the board would be fantastic. I know there are MANY who will fight tooth and nail because they think their children are the only deserving and capable of the "best". But here is what I have to say to them GET OVER YOURSELF!
Anonymous
05/16/2012 14:58
Subject: Re:AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Same? what are you guys talking about? My kid's 3rd grade AAP class skipped entire 3rd grade math and went straight to 4th grade math.
Same for regular classes?
[list]Yea right!
Anonymous
05/16/2012 10:20
Subject: Re:AAP - lower standards?
Same? what are you guys talking about? My kid's 3rd grade AAP class skipped entire 3rd grade math and went straight to 4th grade math.
Same for regular classes?
Same for regular classes?
Anonymous
05/16/2012 09:08
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
If it's the same then what's the point of the pool and testing. That's silly, of course it's quite different. Math is two grade levels at once. Expectations are higher in every subject. Let's get real if there wasn't a difference we would't be on this thread right now. And half of FFX county parents wouldn't be trying to get their kids in.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:33
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
AAP goes into more depth in subject. Same material, but project based approaches.
The material covered is defined by the SOLs
The material covered is defined by the SOLs
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:32
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
That's why the Cluster Superintendent in McLean is seeking to change all of the curriculum in the pyramid -- because it is "exactly the same." LOL!
[list]Good luck with that.
http://lorton.patch.com/articles/curriculum-plan-raises-issues-of-equity-communication
http://www.fcps.edu/HaycockES/newsletters/March2012.pdf
http://www.fcps.edu/ChesterbrookES/files/byline/March_2012_Byline.pdf
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:27
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
That's why the Cluster Superintendent in McLean is seeking to change all of the curriculum in the pyramid -- because it is "exactly the same." LOL!
[list]Good luck with that.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:24
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
the math is a litle more accelerated and the class sizes are bigger, otherwise not much difference.
[list]Nope same stuff.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:15
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
That's why the Cluster Superintendent in McLean is seeking to change all of the curriculum in the pyramid -- because it is "exactly the same." LOL!
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:13
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
the math is a litle more accelerated and the class sizes are bigger, otherwise not much difference.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 19:01
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
[list]Really?! This program is no harder than the regular curriculum. In fact it is exactly the same. Stop kidding yourself.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 17:50
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The standards have been relaxed as there are a lot of parents now who get their kids in through drastic test prep and/or appeal. That doesn't necessarily mean the child doesn't belong in the program (they could just test poorly, or be a pain in the neck and have that reflected in their GBRS), but there is a good fraction of the kids who are doing only so so academically in AAP, and others who are just struggling. It's up to the parents to decide whether they prefer the kid to be somewhat lost in a more advanced class or doing really well in a regular class.
This makes no sense. If there has been drastic test prep to get the kids score up... then the standards haven't been relaxed at all. The kid just raised their score above the standard.
The point is that marginally qualified kids who are prepped to death to pass those two tests must then be accomodated in the AAP classroom. There is no time to prep them to death for every single assessment they're going to have in the classroom once they're in. So some of them really struggle, and the level has to go down somewhat to fit the average for that classroom.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 15:25
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Excuse me...Asian (including India) and Jewish
I meant they are trying to include more minorities, not just Asians. I think many people are disgruntled with the high presence of Asians in the program.
What's wrong with Asians?
overrepresented is all. This has been the source of some criticism of the program.
Anonymous
05/15/2012 13:22
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Excuse me...Asian (including India) and Jewish
I meant they are trying to include more minorities, not just Asians. I think many people are disgruntled with the high presence of Asians in the program.
What's wrong with Asians?
Anonymous
05/15/2012 13:20
Subject: AAP - lower standards?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Standards are much lower now.
I think they didn't want the AAP program to only be Asian.
Execuse me, I am an assian mom (Indian), I didn't do any preperation.. or cared when he gets accepted or not..
he did.. not all asian parents are prep or tiger parents.. FYI..