Anonymous wrote:That's funny B O ? Those are unfortunate initials for a President LOL !

But he is the POTUS.

That's funny B O ? Those are unfortunate initials for a President LOL !

Anonymous wrote:Ever noticed how nobody in their right mind shouts pro homosexual views when they are on their deathbed? I do. Talk your trash when you are dying and make sure your children bow at the alter of anal sex right before they die,then I will give you props.

Are you the same poster who rants on about President Obama smelling bad and refers to him as "B O?"

Ever noticed how nobody in their right mind shouts pro homosexual views when they are on their deathbed? I do. Talk your trash when you are dying and make sure your children bow at the alter of anal sex right before they die,then I will give you props.

I think the 'wrong' aspect may stem from the fact that two men or two women do not have genitals that are designed for each other. Obviously they can improvise but the penis and vagina were designed to sexually fit together. Additionally two men or two women can't bear children without the participation of a person of a member of the opposite sex. Therefore the natural design of the body both for pleasure and procreation was for man/woman.

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Anonymous wrote:But I would dare, double dare a teacher in say DC to tell a student that his family's position on gay marriage (against) is wrong.
That would likely trigger a complaint.

Who gives a shit? Wrong is wrong, and sometimes you gotta tell it like it is. "You are WRONG." or "You don't get to hateU."

Enough of this PC bullshit in pretending that all views are valid. They're not.

Wrong is what YOU consider wrong. Billions of people think homosexuality is wrong. Really, it's just a bunch of few liberals in the west that consider it enlightened to encourage such genetically deviant behavior.

What does 'genetically deviant' mean?

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Anonymous wrote:But I would dare, double dare a teacher in say DC to tell a student that his family's position on gay marriage (against) is wrong.
That would likely trigger a complaint.

Who gives a shit? Wrong is wrong, and sometimes you gotta tell it like it is. "You are WRONG." or "You don't get to hateU."

Enough of this PC bullshit in pretending that all views are valid. They're not.

Wrong is what YOU consider wrong. Billions of people think homosexuality is wrong. Really, it's just a bunch of few liberals in the west that consider it enlightened to encourage such genetically deviant behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I would dare, double dare a teacher in say DC to tell a student that his family's position on gay marriage (against) is wrong.
That would likely trigger a complaint.

Who gives a shit? Wrong is wrong, and sometimes you gotta tell it like it is. "You are WRONG." or "You don't get to hate."

Enough of this PC bullshit in pretending that all views are valid. They're not.

OK, let's ask the teachers what they would do. Teachers, feel free to chime in. Heck, I dare them even more to tell a student that abortion is OK and any family that opposes it is wrong. Darn, you might even lose your retirement, be careful.

Context is everything. If a student is bullying another student whom is suspected of being gay, that's wrong.

If a student bullies another student suspected of having an abortion, that, too, is wrong.

Note that TOLERANT people don't do these things. Tolerant people don't hold suspected gays down in the quad and cut their hair. TOLERANT people don't picket abortion clinics and taunt women entering them, or shoot doctors who perform the procedure.

No, those are the actions of haters. Of terrorists. And the people who enable and encourage are just as guilty and have no business living in America. None.

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Anonymous wrote:But I would dare, double dare a teacher in say DC to tell a student that his family's position on gay marriage (against) is wrong.
That would likely trigger a complaint.

Who gives a shit? Wrong is wrong, and sometimes you gotta tell it like it is. "You are WRONG." or "You don't get to hate."

Enough of this PC bullshit in pretending that all views are valid. They're not.

OK, let's ask the teachers what they would do. Teachers, feel free to chime in. Heck, I dare them even more to tell a student that abortion is OK and any family that opposes it is wrong. Darn, you might even lose your retirement, be careful.

Anonymous wrote:OP,

It's a clash of "Truth" versus "Moral Relativism."

In our current enlightened society, moral relativism is the order of the day. We've progressed from the day when we considered various populations to be lesser citizens. Women have the vote now. Blacks aren't slaves. While we certainly have social classes, we don't have a rigid caste system; mobility through the classes is possible and indeed romanticized.

So, as part of our evolution of general decency, it seems odd that some individuals would cling to the same texts they once used to justify discrimination against women, against minorities as a safe haven to hate gays. It simply doesn't compute. For one thing, I read the Bible too. The message I take from it is one of love and tolerance. Of acceptance. Everyone is welcome at the Lord's table. EVERYONE. So, in that context, it's kind of hard to reconcile the hate.

Shorter me: Stop hiding behind a backwards way of thinking and get with the program. Your way of thinking is simply invalid. Live and let live. How does gay people getting married in any way shape or form affect you or your own marriage?

I am actually not anti gay and not White. I just think that the left goes too far dictating morality just as the right did so in the past (and will try to do). The Bible preaches a TON of hate, including straight forward genocide. So, I would steer clear away from Biblical examples. The issue is more that we are getting to a point where we tell people that they are wrong if...they are on the other side of our beliefs. Yes, for me racism is wrong, as is any other form of discrimination. I have never consciously discriminated against anyone in my life for reasons of race or sexual orientation. That said, I am not one to giggle at the conservatives either.

Anonymous wrote:If you are religious, say ultra Catholic, or Mormon, or any other deeply religious person, who is to say that their beliefs are wrong?
These people say that they have read the Bible and in the end, their decision is final...no support of homosexuality.
The Pope is not going to change on this issue. The Amish still have the same opinion. The list goes on. We all know that these families have gay children like anyone else, but at the end of the day, to them it is wrong.

I will agree that no one has the right to discriminate, say offensive things, or give haircuts, but they are entitled to their beliefs and their vote.

These arguments remind me of a woman at a day care center where I worked (co-op). She disciplined a child for a racist remark, telling the child that the comment was "wrong". I asked her in the future to tell the child that that kind of behavior would not be tolerated at such and such facility. There is a difference. I am not into the business of telling anyone or their family how to think. It is more about what they DO that matters.

Yes, having a clean heart matters too, but it is not my right to reach into the inner workings of individuals, families, and their religions to confront them on these issues.

Everyone, including the ultra-religious is entitled to their own value of right and wrong. They do not have to support homosexual behavior. What they cannot do is enforce their religious beliefs on other people or on the government's enforcement of equal rights for all. Any church or religion is entitled to believe that homosexual behavior is wrong and to not perform gay marriages. However, they do not have the right to dictate that the government cannot perform civil marriages to ensure that all citizens are granted the equal protections that the civil institution of marriages provide for those citizens. No one is requiring religious institutions to perform gay marriages against their beliefs. What the supporters of marriage equality want is the right for two citizens of the same gender to be able to be married by a justice of the peace or by a church that does support same sex marriage.

What is amazing is that many of the founders of this nation fled Europe from religious persecution that endangered these founders because of the way that they practiced and believed in religion. At the time they were the religious minority that were being hounded by the religious majority of the time. The nation was founded on the principal that everyone was entitled to practice their religion the way they see fit. And yet today's religious leaders are trying to undermine that foundation by using their status as the current religious majority to try to persecute others the way they were once persecuted in Europe.

Anonymous wrote:But I would dare, double dare a teacher in say DC to tell a student that his family's position on gay marriage (against) is wrong.
That would likely trigger a complaint.

Who gives a shit? Wrong is wrong, and sometimes you gotta tell it like it is. "You are WRONG." or "You don't get to hate."

Enough of this PC bullshit in pretending that all views are valid. They're not.

You can be against homosexuality - and I can think you are a bigot I will keep my kids away from, and use all my political and financial power to ensure that your beliefs play no role in civil society. So we are even.

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These arguments remind me of a woman at a day care center where I worked (co-op). She disciplined a child for a racist remark, telling the child that the comment was "wrong". I asked her in the future to tell the child that that kind of behavior would not be tolerated at such and such facility. There is a difference.

By the way, are you for real? I mean, really?

You'd tell a child in a day care that "this kind of behavior will not be tolerated?"

Daycare kids are what, 2, 3? They get "Right and wrong" not "will not be tolerated.

Given your backwards-ass views on things (no, you're NOT entitled to believe some of the things you do, and they're not equally valid or legitimate with mainstream thinking), it is really disturbing that you work in a daycare center. Please identify yourself so I can ensure you are fired.

How do the Mormons decide what is dark skin? There are many shades. And are albinos most revered? And is it a good thing to bleach your skin to a lighter shade?