PP again. We're more of a GMU/VT family, but thanks for the Harvard rec. I'll look into it in seven years.

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Anonymous wrote:Every child is tested in October of second grade to see if their test scores are eligible to be placed in a 'pool' of applicants for AAP placement. The students are then considered on the basis of their test scores and teacher recs. If they are accepted into the AAP program, they will either be placed in a separate class in their own school's AAP program. If their school does not have an AAP program, they will be bussed to the nearest one (at least for the next school year- with the budget cuts taking place, the school board always talks about getting rid of the bussing).

What PP doesn't tell you is the system has been corrupted and that parents invest a lot of time and money coaching their children and doing test prep in pursuit of a slot in these programs because they view them as a ticket to Harvard.

Um, no. (PP here) This is just what happened to my two kids. They both got into GT. We didn't coach. We didn't prep. They just made it to the pool with their own test scores and were selected later.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP: It does not work that way at schools. Maybe your school, but not all schools.

This is the way it works at all FCPS schools.

See page 5 of the Local Plan for the Education of the Gifted.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/localplan/FinalLocalPlan.pdf

This document does not require a GBRS done on every child in FCPS.

Quoting from page 5 - Part III: Screening, Referral, Identification, and Service Procedures:

(second paragraph)

All K-8 grade students are considered for advanced academic services through an annual review
of ability test scores, achievement test scores, progress reports, and a gifted behaviors rating
scale (Attachment B). The advanced academic resource teacher at each elementary school
reviews data for students at that school and collaborates with classroom teachers and other
school professionals to identify students who need additional challenge through Level II and III
advanced academic services. All decisions are made by the committee using the guidelines in
the GT Testing, Screening and Identification Procedures Manual (Attachment C).

(fourth paragraph)

Beginning in kindergarten, the Advanced Academic Resource Teacher (AART) places student
data into a database (Attachment E). This database includes ability test scores (if available),
achievement test scores (if available), and a score on the gifted behaviors rating scale. The
database is used by a local screening committee to decide which students need school-based
services (Levels II or III) and in which academic area(s). In addition to the database, referrals
(Attachment F) are accepted from parents or legal guardians, teachers, professionals, students,
peers, self or others. Each year the AART documents services received and materials used for
each student on a record of services form (Attachment G) which is kept in the student’s
cumulative file.

Anonymous wrote:Our school does not have a young scholar program and no GBRS are done. The AART has told me this. It is only done in 2nd grade for those kids in the pool and those who are referred. Our school has no pull-outs. Beginning in 1st grade children switch classes for math based on ability, and seperate reading groups are created by ability. So why would they need to do a GBRS - there are no services.

The GBRS with Commentary is done for students in 2nd grade pool and for those who are referred. The GBRS (just the GBRS score -- not with commentary) is done for all students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP: It does not work that way at schools. Maybe your school, but not all schools.

This is the way it works at all FCPS schools.

See page 5 of the Local Plan for the Education of the Gifted.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/localplan/FinalLocalPlan.pdf

This document does not require a GBRS done on every child in FCPS.

Our school does not have a young scholar program and no GBRS are done. The AART has told me this. It is only done in 2nd grade for those kids in the pool and those who are referred. Our school has no pull-outs. Beginning in 1st grade children switch classes for math based on ability, and seperate reading groups are created by ability. So why would they need to do a GBRS - there are no services.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP: It does not work that way at schools. Maybe your school, but not all schools.

This is the way it works at all FCPS schools.

See page 5 of the Local Plan for the Education of the Gifted.

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/localplan/FinalLocalPlan.pdf

Anonymous wrote:PP: It does not work that way at schools. Maybe your school, but not all schools.

This is the way it works at all FCPS schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does the prior post mean about using the GBRS score from kindergarten to determine classroom placement in 1st and 2nd? Does anyone know more about this?

The GBRS is done each year, starting in Kindergarten, to help place students the following school year. For schools that have Young Scholars, the GBRS helps with that placement. For all schools, the GBRS assists with identifying students for pull-out services.

(And no, this is not a rumor.)

This is true.
And I also belive that the K and 1st GBRS are considered when the 2nd grade GBRS is filled out for AAP consideration.

This is also true. But the 2nd grade GBRS is different in that it is scored by the local committee AND it is supplemented "with commentary" and is therefore known as the GBRS with commentary.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does the prior post mean about using the GBRS score from kindergarten to determine classroom placement in 1st and 2nd? Does anyone know more about this?

The GBRS is done each year, starting in Kindergarten, to help place students the following school year. For schools that have Young Scholars, the GBRS helps with that placement. For all schools, the GBRS assists with identifying students for pull-out services.

(And no, this is not a rumor.)

This is true.
And I also belive that the K and 1st GBRS are considered when the 2nd grade GBRS is filled out for AAP consideration.

PP: It does not work that way at schools. Maybe your school, but not all schools.