Anonymous wrote: they don't take away anything the neuro typical children need.

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid of AAP now after hearing about all the twice exceptional children there.

Anonymous wrote:Agree with 12:57. "neuro-typical" is the standard phrase used by almost every professional we've come across to describe a kid who does not have neurological issues/ disabilities. It's becoming as common a phrase as "special needs." It's really not obnoxious to say it. I'm sure you'll hear it a lot more.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole issue is going to become increasingly annoying and frustrating as my kids get older.

I believe there are many neurological issues where children need extra service but from what I see a lot of them just need plain ole' discipline, routines, and some time to mature. Some of it is personality and the kids need to learn to control their behaviors in certain situations. My mother swears I would have been diagnosed with ADHD as a child, had that term been around back then, but I didn't receive any services except constant redirection and discipline with these issues. Guess what? As I got older I learned through discipline what was acceptable and what was not or I lost out on privileges or was disciplined in other ways if I could not control myself.

I didn't get straight A's in school but once I learned how to recognize my behaviors and control them I did a lot better. No one made EXCUSES for me and I developing coping techniques that worked for me. My parents were also not determined that I get straight A’s any way possible!

As an adult I am still very talkative, I still get distracted easily, and I have a gazillion thoughts in my head at one time. I have also earned advanced science degrees and hold a fairly senior position at work for my age. I also know that if I want to continue to succeed at work and balance family life I will always have to check in with myself to make sure I am on task, I will always be obsessed with list (I have lists of list that I need to make), and most importantly I know that my behavior is my responsibility.

The real world will not be as accommodating as the schools are and I think it’s a lesson kids should learn early so they can develop true life skills. Their jobs will not give them exceptions and alternative plans for their workday because they have ADHD. It’s also along the lines that everyone gets a trophy and is always a winner.

I know what you mean! When my dad was in the military, there was no such thing as PTSD. Yeah, war is hell but you did your duty, came home and got on with your life. Nowadays, all these soldiers are coming home, claiming they're impaired because of PTSD when really they just need to buck up and show a little mental fortitude. It's gotten so much easier for them to claim PTSD disability and then not have to get a job because they get disability benefits. Why all of a sudden these claims? Why don't they develop some coping strategies?

Anonymous wrote:This whole issue is going to become increasingly annoying and frustrating as my kids get older.

I believe there are many neurological issues where children need extra service but from what I see a lot of them just need plain ole' discipline, routines, and some time to mature. Some of it is personality and the kids need to learn to control their behaviors in certain situations. My mother swears I would have been diagnosed with ADHD as a child, had that term been around back then, but I didn't receive any services except constant redirection and discipline with these issues. Guess what? As I got older I learned through discipline what was acceptable and what was not or I lost out on privileges or was disciplined in other ways if I could not control myself.

I didn't get straight A's in school but once I learned how to recognize my behaviors and control them I did a lot better. No one made EXCUSES for me and I developing coping techniques that worked for me. My parents were also not determined that I get straight A’s any way possible!

As an adult I am still very talkative, I still get distracted easily, and I have a gazillion thoughts in my head at one time. I have also earned advanced science degrees and hold a fairly senior position at work for my age. I also know that if I want to continue to succeed at work and balance family life I will always have to check in with myself to make sure I am on task, I will always be obsessed with list (I have lists of list that I need to make), and most importantly I know that my behavior is my responsibility.

The real world will not be as accommodating as the schools are and I think it’s a lesson kids should learn early so they can develop true life skills. Their jobs will not give them exceptions and alternative plans for their workday because they have ADHD. It’s also along the lines that everyone gets a trophy and is always a winner.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here: benefits is a poor choice of words. Yes, they are services but some non IEP parents seem to consider them benefits!

neuro typical - when you've seen psychiatrists or neuropsychologists, they use this term and thats were we learned it. It means normal children.

I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just learned that some parents get very annoyed with children who are in AAP and have IEP's. But they don't seem to get as annoyed with children who aren't in AAP but have IEP's. I wondered why. I can't ask them directly without really picking a fight so I thought an anonymous forum is a better place to get the answer.

And the issue requiring the IEP is inattentiveness.

Then let's just use that phrase. We're not psychiatrists or neuropsychologists, so to pepper conversations about SN kids with phrases like "neuro typical" is just ... not normal. In fact, it feels like a contortion.

Yeah OP, I think you're being a bit obnoxious. "twice exceptional" and "neuro-typical"? Maybe the problem is the other parents just don't like you.

OP here. I'm so used to using 'neurotypical' which is why I used it here. If it upsets people that much, no big deal, I'll use the word 'normal' instead. I didn't use it to come across as obnoxious, it's a habit of both DH and mine after hearing it so many times. Yes kids can also be weird and bitchy but the kind of problems that seem to warrant the IEP is the neurological problems.