Anonymous
Post 03/15/2012 13:36     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone who is familiar with Persians know if Persian Jews are culturally similar, or are they viewed as having separate cultural stereotypes? (Just curious because I recently met someone who identifies as a Persian Jew).



Yeah, I'm a Persian Jew. We're just Persians who follow Judaism.

Oh and to the guy saying "hurrr durrrr it's Iranians now not Persians", you're wrong. Persians are an ethnicity, just like Scots are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_people
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2012 20:52     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:I have never been more GROSSED OUT by a group of people in my life! Well..Skinheads, The KKK, Black Panthers, and generally any prejudiced group MIGHT be more disgusting. MAYBE. The Housewives (All Casts) have NOTHING on these people. The SHALLOW, VANITY OBSESSED, MATERIALISTIC nature of this group is absolutely APPALLING! The only one with any depth of character is Asa and the rest of her so called "friends" should stop making fun of her style behind her back and take some lessons from her on being a decent human being. What truly confuses me is that NONE of them is even remotely attractive! Especially GG!!! The one who doesn't like ugly people...really?! Smells like a low self esteem to me because you're not pretty at all! There is NOTHING more UNNATRACTIVE than a MEAN, ghetto talking, spoiled brat! Not a good look. Mike had some physical potential until he opened his mouth. What kills me is that they could've taken the chance for a show to bring awareness to the atrocities that caused their families to come here and the present day issues. Instead they make a VERY POOR respresentation of their culture and I think they should be ASHAMED of themselves and their characters. I have several Persian friends from LA and the people on this show are NOTHING like the beautifully spiritual people I know. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU for being such morally. spiritually, and intellectually corrupt individuals that you are. All of you are WAY TOOO OLD to be SOOO UNAWARE! Do yourselves a favor and volunteer some of your wasted time to help others and GET A CLUE about what life is REALLY about.



That's exactly what I was thinking! Several people on the show have huge ego's and consider themselves great looking but none are even attractive. GG is average looking yet she said she can't stand ugly people. I hope she was talking about ugly on the inside because if she was referring to ugly on the outside it's bizarre. She has an inflated ego I suppose. I'm not saying this to simply hit back at her or the others because they have huge ego's. I honestly am not understanding why they think they are so attractive.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2012 20:50     Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
My spouse is iranian and I can tell you that LA iranians have a lot of wealth and the show does depict the reality of iranian life and culture there. They are generally materialistic. Lots of iranian women admire blond hair so they color their hair blonde (at least the affluent ones do). Many are uncomfortable if they have the typical iranian nose and get nose jobs. They are not religious per se but more attached to their culture.

And I should add that there is no such thing as being "Persian." The Persian empire hasn't existed for eons. Would it be appropriate for anyone to go around saying they were "Roman" or "Mesopotamian"? These civilizations haven't existed for centuries. These people are Iranians. Persia was once Iraq and Iran combined. Iraq and Iran, however, are now distinct cultures with separate ethnicities and language. One group is arab, the other is not. I think they like to call themselves Persian because the U.S. has not had good relations with Iran in many, many years and they fear discrimination.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2012 09:46     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone who is familiar with Persians know if Persian Jews are culturally similar, or are they viewed as having separate cultural stereotypes? (Just curious because I recently met someone who identifies as a Persian Jew).



Culturally Persian Jess are probably more similar to Persian Muslims, but in so many countries Jews aren't allowed in so they will always be Jews first.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2012 09:44     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching? The girl who said she doesn't like ugly people isn't really that pretty.


I don't have cable, but I saw enough clips on Bravo. I do thinks he is pretty, but they show old photos and she no doubt had a nose job at least. So basically she hates people cannot afford to change their looks.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2012 09:09     Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. What you all say makes sense. I think it could show Persians are just like everyone else, but there is also the risk of ignorant people stereotyping and assuming all Persians are like this. Jersey shore is different in that these are not people who's parents left a country that we are clashing with. Of course the parents of these cast members LEFT and do not agree with this regime at all, but some people IMO will be too clueless to think about that.

I am curious to see how they handle homosexuality, etc, though I will only see through clips at bravo's website. I also wonder about the families of these cast members. Are they devastated to have their kids on TV acting materialistic? I would be. (Some reviewers have seen the first show and I think it is edited the same way the previous are-unflattering).


I'm sorry, but I think this new show is no different that some of the other reality shows. I love to watch the real housewives, but by no means do I think they are representative of the majority of housewives in this country. I have several Persian friends and I know they are nothing like the bravo show. I'm still going to enjoy watching!
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2012 23:26     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Does anyone who is familiar with Persians know if Persian Jews are culturally similar, or are they viewed as having separate cultural stereotypes? (Just curious because I recently met someone who identifies as a Persian Jew).

Anonymous
Post 03/11/2012 23:24     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Persia is not a country and I do not care what anyone says it makes me NUTS when I here IRANIANS call themselves that. I am not PRUSSIAN or LOUISIANA PURCHASIAN.

Good Lord.


Why does it bother you so much? It is personal preference.


Yes, but why do they do it? Is it because Iran doesn't have a good image internationally?


Or because they disagree with current leaders of Iran and don't want to be associated with them. Geez.


So Persians live or were from Iran? Can't you be both? If you refer to yourself as Persian is that hoity toity?
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2012 23:19     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
I have never been more GROSSED OUT by a group of people in my life! Well..Skinheads, The KKK, Black Panthers, and generally any prejudiced group MIGHT be more disgusting. MAYBE. The Housewives (All Casts) have NOTHING on these people. The SHALLOW, VANITY OBSESSED, MATERIALISTIC nature of this group is absolutely APPALLING! The only one with any depth of character is Asa and the rest of her so called "friends" should stop making fun of her style behind her back and take some lessons from her on being a decent human being. What truly confuses me is that NONE of them is even remotely attractive! Especially GG!!! The one who doesn't like ugly people...really?! Smells like a low self esteem to me because you're not pretty at all! There is NOTHING more UNNATRACTIVE than a MEAN, ghetto talking, spoiled brat! Not a good look. Mike had some physical potential until he opened his mouth. What kills me is that they could've taken the chance for a show to bring awareness to the atrocities that caused their families to come here and the present day issues. Instead they make a VERY POOR respresentation of their culture and I think they should be ASHAMED of themselves and their characters. I have several Persian friends from LA and the people on this show are NOTHING like the beautifully spiritual people I know. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU for being such morally. spiritually, and intellectually corrupt individuals that you are. All of you are WAY TOOO OLD to be SOOO UNAWARE! Do yourselves a favor and volunteer some of your wasted time to help others and GET A CLUE about what life is REALLY about.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2012 22:09     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anyone watching? The girl who said she doesn't like ugly people isn't really that pretty.
Anonymous
Post 03/11/2012 10:38     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Persia is not a country and I do not care what anyone says it makes me NUTS when I here IRANIANS call themselves that. I am not PRUSSIAN or LOUISIANA PURCHASIAN.

Good Lord.


Why does it bother you so much? It is personal preference.


Yes, but why do they do it? Is it because Iran doesn't have a good image internationally?


Or because they disagree with current leaders of Iran and don't want to be associated with them. Geez.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2012 22:45     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Persia is not a country and I do not care what anyone says it makes me NUTS when I here IRANIANS call themselves that. I am not PRUSSIAN or LOUISIANA PURCHASIAN.

Good Lord.


Why does it bother you so much? It is personal preference.


Yes, but why do they do it? Is it because Iran doesn't have a good image internationally?
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2012 22:30     Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
I have never thought twice about it. Had a good friend in college who referred to herself as Persian so I did too. I will call people whatever they want me to call them.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2012 17:01     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Persia is not a country and I do not care what anyone says it makes me NUTS when I here IRANIANS call themselves that. I am not PRUSSIAN or LOUISIANA PURCHASIAN.

Good Lord.


Why does it bother you so much? It is personal preference.
Anonymous
Post 03/10/2012 15:37     Subject: Re:Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Persia is not a country and I do not care what anyone says it makes me NUTS when I here IRANIANS call themselves that. I am not PRUSSIAN or LOUISIANA PURCHASIAN.

Good Lord.