Anonymous
02/25/2012 11:46
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We subsidize many, many worse things.
Not sure that is a great argument. We could just as easily say the Church tolerates much, much worse things than a health plan that contains contraceptives.
Like priests raping little boys.
Anonymous
02/25/2012 11:25
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:We subsidize many, many worse things.
Not sure that is a great argument. We could just as easily say the Church tolerates much, much worse things than a health plan that contains contraceptives.
Anonymous
02/25/2012 10:41
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:only religious and charitable organizations should be used for assisting the poor, the government should GTFO
Yeah, look how well that works out across history. Maybe we should reestablish debtor's prisons, too.
Anonymous
02/25/2012 10:28
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
We subsidize many, many worse things.
takoma
02/25/2012 00:49
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:somebody needs to read the federalist papers and also read the part of the establishment clause that says freedom of religion, not freedom from religions.
The first clause of the Bill of Rights: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" says we are all free to have no religion!
Anonymous
02/24/2012 19:50
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:somebody needs to read the federalist papers and also read the part of the establishment clause that says freedom of religion, not freedom from religions.
A. the constitution says nothing about tax breaks.
B. we actually give them money. we don't have to do that, regardless of whether or not they are allowed tax-free status.
Anonymous
02/24/2012 19:21
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
somebody needs to read the federalist papers and also read the part of the establishment clause that says freedom of religion, not freedom from religions.
Anonymous
02/24/2012 15:02
Subject: Re:Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:Why do we subsidize lazy people? illegals, druga addicts, elderly?
Is that the bar you set for your Church? We're better than illegals, drug addicts, and lazy people?
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:36
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do we fund private schools that are made up of über wealthy families that could afford full rate if the schools paid taxes. Or organizations that only cater to a single race? Or why is the government forcing people to take contraceptives and forcing us to pay for it.
Wow, really? The governemnt is FORCING people to take contraceptives? What cave do you live in?
The government wants to make sure woman have a choice and access to control their fertility if they choose to do so. That's all. It just has to be available as an option. When you pay for insurance you pay for medication YOU may not take. I don't take Viagra, but I'm paying for it? GET IT??? You are paying for smokers lung cancer treatment also.
Do you realize that birth control helps some woman with medical conditions, it's not only for prevention of pregnancy? There are woman that have extremely heavy bleeding, that makes them anemic, birth control helps that. It also helps woman with hormonal inbalance as well. Just to name a few more common reason birth control is taken that is not related to pregnancy prevention. Do deny women this coverage is nothing short of discrimination. If you don't want to pay for my birth control, I don't want to pay for you Viagra, heart medication, insulin because I don't take those meds for my health.
Please, Please educate yourself before you make such a ridiculous statement.
You seem like a woman with hormonal imbalance. Pay for your own damn pills.
An appropriate response from an ignorant and uneducated person. Thank you for your participation.
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:31
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
only religious and charitable organizations should be used for assisting the poor, the government should GTFO
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:27
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:We fund PP because, in the words of George Bush the Elder, family planning is a matter of public health. We shouldn't fund any religious institutions because that violates the Establishment Clause.
You need to reread the Establishment Clause.
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:26
Subject: Re:Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:Why do we subsidize lazy people? illegals, druga addicts, elderly?
wow, elderly people are on par with the others in your mind? sad.
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:22
Subject: Re:Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
The Founders realized that the power to tax is the power to destroy. They decided that the freedom of religion is so fundamental, and the risk to freedom of religion from being able to tax religions out of existance was so high that they decided not to tax religion. Similarly they thought the roles of the states was so important that states aren't subject to federal taxes.
Please point to the part of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or any of the other Amendments that exempts religious organizations from any sort of tax. I'll wait.
[Waiting . . . ]
[Still waiting . . . ]
OK, time's up. You can't find it because the Founders "decided" nothing of the sort. Tax exempt status for religions is not in the Constitution. A court made this determination, based on an interpretation of the Constitution, and now it's the law of the land. Just like the right to privacy, for example. Interesting how one of those decisions is always cast as the height of judicial activism, and a plague on this great land of ours, and the other is a bedrock of our freedom.
So, let's make a deal. We won't worry about taxing religions, and in return you accept that the right to privacy exists, with all that entails. OK?
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:18
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
We fund PP because, in the words of George Bush the Elder, family planning is a matter of public health. We shouldn't fund any religious institutions because that violates the Establishment Clause.
Anonymous
02/24/2012 09:14
Subject: Why do we subsidize the Catholic Church?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do we fund private schools that are made up of über wealthy families that could afford full rate if the schools paid taxes. Or organizations that only cater to a single race? Or why is the government forcing people to take contraceptives and forcing us to pay for it.
Wow, really? The governemnt is FORCING people to take contraceptives? What cave do you live in?
The government wants to make sure woman have a choice and access to control their fertility if they choose to do so. That's all. It just has to be available as an option. When you pay for insurance you pay for medication YOU may not take. I don't take Viagra, but I'm paying for it? GET IT??? You are paying for smokers lung cancer treatment also.
Do you realize that birth control helps some woman with medical conditions, it's not only for prevention of pregnancy? There are woman that have extremely heavy bleeding, that makes them anemic, birth control helps that. It also helps woman with hormonal inbalance as well. Just to name a few more common reason birth control is taken that is not related to pregnancy prevention. Do deny women this coverage is nothing short of discrimination. If you don't want to pay for my birth control, I don't want to pay for you Viagra, heart medication, insulin because I don't take those meds for my health.
Please, Please educate yourself before you make such a ridiculous statement.
You seem like a woman with hormonal imbalance. Pay for your own damn pills.