Anonymous wrote:Actually, some Hindus DO take offense at the cultural appropriation going on in US yoga -- sanskrit chants and whatnot. My SIL is Indian, and she told me she was quite surprised to walk into a yoga class in the US and hear Hindu prayers.
And to make matters more complicated ... yoga is not really purely Hindu anyway. The emphasis on physical postures (asana) is a new thing. There's been a lot of research on this lately, and there's evidence that the physical postures are actually derived in part from British gymnastic practices taken to India in the 19th century. When yoga came to the US, it got mixed up with all sorts of traditional US things, like the religious revivalism of the late 19th century.
no, I AMA poster who just saiid that of course there are assholes.Anonymous wrote:I think I recognize OP now. She's the one pretending all atheists are sweetness and light, and then she turns around and bullies other Christians. Not exactly what the good book says.
Anonymous wrote:I imagine that the Christians who take yoga (I'm one of them) have no issue with Hinduism - we just don't practice it. I also find challah bread and brisket tasty and I am not a practicing Jew.I have no issue with someone who is not a practicing Christian taking up the more secular aspects of Christmas or Easter. But I think if you're the kind of person who hates and criticizes a religion, you should leave its traditions alone or risk being called a hypocrite. If you think Christianity is stupid, then you should think it's all stupid, not just everything but the cool stuff with the presents and songs.
Anonymous wrote:What 11:29 said. You'd have to be blind to miss the atheist cries of "sheeple" and "sky fairies" on DCUM.
Ranting Atheist, if you don't want to be called a hypocrite, or have us wonder if you're a teenager, I suggest you revise your claim. (And nobody here is interested in your initiative to switch the debate from your own behavior and that of other atheists, to a debate on belief. So let it drop.)
Anonymous wrote:In another thread, you said that atheists have "no dogma" and don't all subscribe to the same set of non-beliefs.
Anonymous wrote:Fail, OP....major fail. Mainly because Christians don't denigrate and show hatred and/or mock Hinduism.
I see why you chose your user name. You take offensive easily and seem a bit immature. I'll blame it on your being in your late teen's...it's a rough time for many.
In another thread, you said that atheists have "no dogma" and don't all subscribe to the same set of non-beliefs. So, how can you now speak for them all to say that none take the position that I put forth? Could it not be true that some do and some don't? I participate on other message boards and we have many discussions about religion. I can tell you that there are MANY atheists who call religion/God/Jesus fairy tales/fairies in the sky/Sky-Daddy's, etc. Are you now playing ignorant?
RantingAtheist wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fail, OP....major fail. Mainly because Christians don't denigrate and show hatred and/or mock Hinduism.
New Poster here.
So, if a Christian does yoga it's fine. But if I, an agnostic/non-Christian, sings the Christmas Carols of my childhood to my child, hangs a stocking, and puts up a few lights, I'm "denigrating, showing hatred and mocking Christianity"? Can you explain that again?
How did you make that leap? I'm referring to the atheists who say that Christians:
-are sheeple
-believe in fairy tales, fairies in the sky, etc
-are dumb/silly to believe in some book that some men wrote
-use religion as a crutch
FWIW, agnostic folks are much more agreeable/approachable when it comes to discussing religion. Some atheists, on the other hand, are downright rabid in their hatred of all things Christian.
Just to clarify, atheists don't say Christianity is a fairy tale, or that God is a fairy in the sky, but rather that there is exactly as much evidence for belief in gods as for any given fairy in the sky. While you may not like this, this is objectively true. Furthermore, the Bible is some book that some men wrote. It's a perfectly valid opinion to find it silly to believe in that with no evidence.
Furthermore, these arguments inevitably arise in the context of threads here about larger issues. For example:
"X is wrong!"
"I disagree."
"But it says so right in the Bible."
"Ah, well, I'm an atheist. And the Bible's just a book some guy's wrote. Do you have an argument to support your position?"
"Ah! An atheist! Well, you have no morality anyway! And how dare you mock my faith!!!"
If talking to people who may not share your particular faith upsets you so, you should withdraw from civil society. Perhaps join a convent.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fail, OP....major fail. Mainly because Christians don't denigrate and show hatred and/or mock Hinduism.
New Poster here.
So, if a Christian does yoga it's fine. But if I, an agnostic/non-Christian, sings the Christmas Carols of my childhood to my child, hangs a stocking, and puts up a few lights, I'm "denigrating, showing hatred and mocking Christianity"? Can you explain that again?
How did you make that leap? I'm referring to the atheists who say that Christians:
-are sheeple
-believe in fairy tales, fairies in the sky, etc
-are dumb/silly to believe in some book that some men wrote
-use religion as a crutch
FWIW, agnostic folks are much more agreeable/approachable when it comes to discussing religion. Some atheists, on the other hand, are downright rabid in their hatred of all things Christian.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you really need a new thread just to say this?
Why didn't you post this there in that thread?
Because it involves more than one thread that ties a number of discussions together over several months of posts, not just a day's worth of posts about Lent. If someone tries to broaden a discussion past the OP, they get told to make a S/O thread. Now I guess if they make a S/O thread, they get an eyeroll for that, too.
Frankly though, I am surprised at the number of hostile posts in the beginning of Lent. How important can the season be if posters act this way on Ash Wednesday and the day after? Do you only care enough to tell other people they can't participate, and then ignore it until Easter?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Fail, OP....major fail. Mainly because Christians don't denigrate and show hatred and/or mock Hinduism.
New Poster here.
So, if a Christian does yoga it's fine. But if I, an agnostic/non-Christian, sings the Christmas Carols of my childhood to my child, hangs a stocking, and puts up a few lights, I'm "denigrating, showing hatred and mocking Christianity"? Can you explain that again?
this is a fair post.Anonymous wrote:I imagine that the Christians who take yoga (I'm one of them) have no issue with Hinduism - we just don't practice it. I also find challah bread and brisket tasty and I am not a practicing Jew.I have no issue with someone who is not a practicing Christian taking up the more secular aspects of Christmas or Easter. But I think if you're the kind of person who hates and criticizes a religion, you should leave its traditions alone or risk being called a hypocrite. If you think Christianity is stupid, then you should think it's all stupid, not just everything but the cool stuff with the presents and songs.