Anonymous wrote:I know this an old thread but instead of starting a "new topic" thought I would just post here...

My daughter is 7 and is a non-fcps student. She scored 126 on her WISC. Her GBRS has not been turned in yet, but I am quite sure she will get minimum 10. She is advanced in many subjects and her teachers have pushed her in math one grade level above her peers.

I have one daughter that is currently in AAP. I see the difference between general ed and the AAP program. I know that my younger daughter would flourish in AAP and so do her current and previous teachers. I was surprised she scored a 126. I expected it would be higher but perhaps she learns differently?

I know FCPS AAP looks for a minimum WISC of 132 this year, but with GBRS score of 10+ what do you think my daughters chances are of getting in to the program?

If she doesnt get in, I dont think I will appeal. I know she will flourish regardless even in general ed. However, I know she can handle challenging work academically and general ed will be too easy for her.

The moderator might move this thread to the AAP board.
Statistically, the minimal WISC for accept is around 130, GBRS 10 to 12, but kids been accepted with all kinds of WISC/GBRS. It only takes your time to put the package together, and $50 for non-FCPS student, so worth a try.

^ thanks I was looking for this thread.

Yes I am now aware there is an AAP forum. I am new poster. Apologies

Anonymous wrote:I know FCPS AAP looks for a minimum WISC of 132 this year, but with GBRS score of 10+ what do you think my daughters chances are of getting in to the program?

FCPS does not look for a minimum WISC of 132 this year or any other year. It really depends on the subtest scores.

You may wish to post on the AAP forum instead of in the VA schools forum, too.

I know this an old thread but instead of starting a "new topic" thought I would just post here...

My daughter is 7 and is a non-fcps student. She scored 126 on her WISC. Her GBRS has not been turned in yet, but I am quite sure she will get minimum 10. She is advanced in many subjects and her teachers have pushed her in math one grade level above her peers.

I have one daughter that is currently in AAP. I see the difference between general ed and the AAP program. I know that my younger daughter would flourish in AAP and so do her current and previous teachers. I was surprised she scored a 126. I expected it would be higher but perhaps she learns differently?

I know FCPS AAP looks for a minimum WISC of 132 this year, but with GBRS score of 10+ what do you think my daughters chances are of getting in to the program?

If she doesnt get in, I dont think I will appeal. I know she will flourish regardless even in general ed. However, I know she can handle challenging work academically and general ed will be too easy for her.

Anonymous wrote:I have sort of the opposite question. If my child doesn't get in from the in-school tests, but scored a 140 on the WISC, is the general opinion that I should definitely apply for him? To be honest, I was a bit surprised at how well he did. He does pretty well in school, but he certainly doesn't like to work too hard! For those with experience with the AAP - for children that are very bright but need a ton of pushing to do homework, etc. is the AAP a good place for them?

My dd has an IQ of 145, but is the classic underachiever. She doesn't like to have to try. Many things come very easy to her, and then when she actually has to think about something she tends to hit a wall. AAP has been a bit of a struggle, just to get her to put forth the effort and really think and study. Luckily, her teacher has her all figured out. She knows about her photographic memory and that anything that requires memorization or fact recall she doesn't even have to think about. But she pushes her to think and try in things like math and other areas that require data manipulation or creativity.

14:19 if your DC has a WISC of 140 you should definitely apply. I have a child over 140 and my DC never worked hard and hated doing homework. Turns out he just hates doing things that are too easy. Now in AAP he is much more motivated to try and accomplish things because things are taught differently. I would apply and open up new options for your DC.

Anonymous wrote:PP, I should say that I just moved here. Seems like I should apply since it seems people here are crazy over the AAP program (it was hardly mentioned where I used to live). Is it because the AAP program is so great or the rest is so bad??

The program is great, but so are the regular schools, students and teachers (I have a child in each program).

In my opinion, there is a huge advantage to being in AAP if you have a child with exceptional intelligence, capable of doing work far above the average smart classmates and without an academic peer group. For us, AAP gave my child a peer group, where he wasn't "the smart kid" getting extra/different assignments from everyone else. Late elementary school is where social dynamics begin to shift, and our kid was starting to notice that shift. Our kid's assessment of AAP is "I love that I am just a regular kid and everyone likes to talk about the same type of stuff as me. It is cool to be smart in my class."

On the academic side my child is now sufficiently challenged where 80-90% effort is required to do well in the class, as opposed to 50% effort in the regular classes. The effort that earned As in the regular classes now earns Bs & Cs in AAP, and we are thrilled with that. It doesn't matter what your IQ is if you don't know how to work hard, and AAP helps to teach that lesson. We are happy our kid will learn that now in elementary school, instead of struggling when challenges hit in high school when grades actually count. My other child is able to learn that lesson through the regular classes, but the oldest was not.

PP, I should say that I just moved here. Seems like I should apply since it seems people here are crazy over the AAP program (it was hardly mentioned where I used to live). Is it because the AAP program is so great or the rest is so bad??

I have sort of the opposite question. If my child doesn't get in from the in-school tests, but scored a 140 on the WISC, is the general opinion that I should definitely apply for him? To be honest, I was a bit surprised at how well he did. He does pretty well in school, but he certainly doesn't like to work too hard! For those with experience with the AAP - for children that are very bright but need a ton of pushing to do homework, etc. is the AAP a good place for them?

If you look at the stats, you will find the median IQ is significantly less than 130. 15% of the county is in AAP. Assuming national statistics,that means that approximately 1 standard deviation is the minimum, or about 115. In reality, FFX may be a bit higher than average, but the minimum is definitely less than 120. I know of a kid with a WISC of 115 that is doing fine in AAP.

I don't think the program is for 120 WISC kids, but you can apply if it makes you feel good. With that IQ I doubt she needs to go faster that the regular curriculum.

To make your application stronger you can also submit John Hopkins University's CTY score. It is a cheaper ($55.00) test.

I think the main question is whether you think your child is a quick thinker or learner and should be in an "advanced learning environment". If so, apply. On the other hand, they do seem to accept all kinds of scores and ratings through self referrals and appeals etc. Honestly, it seems that if parents want their child in the class and the child is a decent student, the child seems to get accepted at some point. Remember though that kids who are self motivated will do great in life no matter what class they attend.