If the kid is in the pool, you can't parent refer.

Anonymous wrote:Does not giving a referral hurt the child's chance of AAP, assuming they are in the pool of course. Since the teacher is the best judge, why refer unnecessarily?

I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Only children who are not in the pool can be referred. The children in the pool are screened without any further intervention necessary from the parents.

Does not giving a referral hurt the child's chance of AAP, assuming they are in the pool of course. Since the teacher is the best judge, why refer unnecessarily?

Test prep can reportedly increase the scores by 15%. If 20% prepped, and the claims are correct, the county wide average would increase by 3 points, probably doubling the number of in pool kids

why every one is talking about Prep? Your high IQ will not help if a 1st grader does not learn how to answer the questions. Remember they are still kids.

Anonymous wrote:15:53: In-pool scores vary from year to year. They are almost always at or above 130. And less than 135.

In terms of IQ numbers, 130 to 132 should reduce the number of kids in the pool by about 30% assuming a Gaussian distribution. (std deviation for IQ is 15, so 130 is 2 standard deviations above mean, 132 is 2..13 standard deviations So we go from 4.55% to 3.29% of the population in pool.

This is a helpful post - thank you!

No, I am not weird. But I do know statistics.

Anonymous wrote:15:53: In-pool scores vary from year to year. They are almost always at or above 130. And less than 135.

In terms of IQ numbers, 130 to 132 should reduce the number of kids in the pool by about 30% assuming a Gaussian distribution. (std deviation for IQ is 15, so 130 is 2 standard deviations above mean, 132 is 2..13 standard deviations So we go from 4.55% to 3.29% of the population in pool.

You.are.truly.weird.

Yeah, but the tests they use are not IQ tests. I prepped my kid. She got dinged with a high score 130, but then got in on appeal. She is not struggling or dropping out. In fact, she's performing at the top of her AAP class (per teacher). Her GBRS was a lackluster 12.

15:53: In-pool scores vary from year to year. They are almost always at or above 130. And less than 135.

In terms of IQ numbers, 130 to 132 should reduce the number of kids in the pool by about 30% assuming a Gaussian distribution. (std deviation for IQ is 15, so 130 is 2 standard deviations above mean, 132 is 2..13 standard deviations So we go from 4.55% to 3.29% of the population in pool.

Anonymous wrote:I think those problems likely started last year. At Haycock alone they added 2 new 3rd grade AAP classes this year, for a total of 5 3rd grade AAP classes. That is an abnormally large number of kids.

Okay, so they had an unusually number of kids qualify. The real question is, how many of those children are doing well in AAP? How many need to check the thread in this forum about dropping out? A parent can test prep their kids to no end, and high five themselves if their kid makes AAP, but if the kid can't handle the work and thinking required in AAP (during the day in class without Mommy or Daddy standing over them "helping") then a parent is doing a terrible disservice to their child.

Finally, test scores are only a part of the equation in determining whether or not a child gets into AAP. There is the real determining factor: THE GBRS. If the teacher and AART doesn't see AAP level work and thinking from your child, then all the test prep in the world won't help you.

132 was the minimum in-pool score 3 years ago. I guess they tried to lower it and it didn't work out so well for the numbers.

I think those problems likely started last year. At Haycock alone they added 2 new 3rd grade AAP classes this year, for a total of 5 3rd grade AAP classes. That is an abnormally large number of kids.

Anonymous wrote:Is this really that much different than in prior years? I thought the county was having real problems this year with too many kids being qualified due to inflated test scores from prepping etc?

DCUM could be your source for that thought. I haven't seen it as a "problem" at all.

Is this really that much different than in prior years? I thought the county was having real problems this year with too many kids being qualified due to inflated test scores from prepping etc?