Anonymous wrote:I am in Janney and I wouldn't hesitate to report a parent in a heartbeat if someone is lying about their address. And I will complain to the principal if someone leaves the neighborhood and then lobbies to stay -- You are leaving the neighborhood. Its not a neighborhood school if people stay for K and then move into their dream home somewhere else.

You sound fun

I am in Janney and I wouldn't hesitate to report a parent in a heartbeat if someone is lying about their address. And I will complain to the principal if someone leaves the neighborhood and then lobbies to stay -- You are leaving the neighborhood. Its not a neighborhood school if people stay for K and then move into their dream home somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:as a parent of a child in the same grade I will tell you straight out, if I knew you were OOB I would have no issue reporting you to DCPS. I do not care how much you volunteer, contribute, or if your child is my child's best friend.

Why? B/C all you need is a few of these situations to push the class size to unmangeable. I would much prefer my child to be in a class with 23 classmates than 27. [this is example #'s]. I would prefer for my child to be in a classroom as opposed to the demountable.

People cheating the system does have an impact on the rest of the school.

How would you even know if the Principal gave them the ok? I was just looking at the directory for our JKLMM school for a kid to have over this weekend. He lives in SE. My first thought was, "Hmmmm.....I wonder if his parents will drive him over." Never crossed my mind to go to turn him in. I just assume he is OOB.

I have this year's directory, I will have next year's directory. If these is a delta it means they moved from IB to OOB.

I am impressed you can still find your directory for this year much less from last year! So you will really go through and figured out who may have moved then go to DCPS to report them? You are assuming that they haven't already gotten the ok from the Principal to go OOB. That just seems like a lot of work for someone.

Anonymous wrote: Kids in elementary school dont care where their friends live and my child will always have other options for friendship/playdates outside of school.

Sadly, not true. My daughter is 4 and a class mate invited her to her home for a play date. My daughter very loudly said "I can't go to your home-- you don't live in DC!" The poor girl was crushed by my daughter's response. I told my daughter that she needs to think about her words will make others feel. I have not reported what I know about the girl living outside of DC. Something similar happened last year-- I pointed out our house during a field trip and my seatmate proudly told me he lived "in Murland!" What are you going to do? It's easy to say you will report these kids, but I just can't bring myself to do it. Just not high on my list of priorities. But please, don't pull this sort of stuff! It definately will hurt your child!!

Anonymous wrote:It really is cheating. If the rules require you to reapply and you don't, but instead fake your address, you are cheating. You are either adding an extra student to a classroom (if only IB are let in) or you are taking a classroom spot from an OOB student whose parents followed the rules and went through the lottery.

I have to agree with PP. During the OOB lottery, the principal takes a number of factors into consideration when deciding whether to offer OOB spots and how many to offer. If you've moved OOB but don't reveal it to the principal, you might well be pushing class size beyond what is reasonable. If there's plenty of space in the class, the principal would likely allow you to stay.

The OP has younger children not yet enrolled in Janney who she wants to enroll. Janney historically has had zero OOB slots for K or 1st, maybe a couple for 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th.

Everyone has there own view, mine is probably okay to move OOB and have a student already enrolled finish out 3rd, 4th, 5th at the school. Not okay to expect a sibling to start K from an OOB address.

It really is cheating. If the rules require you to reapply and you don't, but instead fake your address, you are cheating. You are either adding an extra student to a classroom (if only IB are let in) or you are taking a classroom spot from an OOB student whose parents followed the rules and went through the lottery.

Anonymous wrote:as a parent of a child in the same grade I will tell you straight out, if I knew you were OOB I would have no issue reporting you to DCPS. I do not care how much you volunteer, contribute, or if your child is my child's best friend.

Why? B/C all you need is a few of these situations to push the class size to unmangeable. I would much prefer my child to be in a class with 23 classmates than 27. [this is example #'s]. I would prefer for my child to be in a classroom as opposed to the demountable.

People cheating the system does have an impact on the rest of the school.

Is it really "cheating the system" if a family settles in a house, enrolls kids for a number of years in a school, and then moves to a house in the same school district but outside the school boundary. They would rather keep child in the same school for continuity, friendships, etc. The school actually loses funding by kicking this child out. It seems something less than cheating and you seem to have a rather harsh reaction.

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Anonymous wrote:as a parent of a child in the same grade I will tell you straight out, if I knew you were OOB I would have no issue reporting you to DCPS. I do not care how much you volunteer, contribute, or if your child is my child's best friend.

Why? B/C all you need is a few of these situations to push the class size to unmangeable. I would much prefer my child to be in a class with 23 classmates than 27. [this is example #'s]. I would prefer for my child to be in a classroom as opposed to the demountable.

People cheating the system does have an impact on the rest of the school.

How would you even know if the Principal gave them the ok? I was just looking at the directory for our JKLMM school for a kid to have over this weekend. He lives in SE. My first thought was, "Hmmmm.....I wonder if his parents will drive him over." Never crossed my mind to go to turn him in. I just assume he is OOB.

I have this year's directory, I will have next year's directory. If these is a delta it means they moved from IB to OOB.

Anonymous wrote:as a parent of a child in the same grade I will tell you straight out, if I knew you were OOB I would have no issue reporting you to DCPS. I do not care how much you volunteer, contribute, or if your child is my child's best friend.

Why? B/C all you need is a few of these situations to push the class size to unmangeable. I would much prefer my child to be in a class with 23 classmates than 27. [this is example #'s]. I would prefer for my child to be in a classroom as opposed to the demountable.

People cheating the system does have an impact on the rest of the school.

How would you even know if the Principal gave them the ok? I was just looking at the directory for our JKLMM school for a kid to have over this weekend. He lives in SE. My first thought was, "Hmmmm.....I wonder if his parents will drive him over." Never crossed my mind to go to turn him in. I just assume he is OOB.

as a parent of a child in the same grade I will tell you straight out, if I knew you were OOB I would have no issue reporting you to DCPS. I do not care how much you volunteer, contribute, or if your child is my child's best friend.

Why? B/C all you need is a few of these situations to push the class size to unmangeable. I would much prefer my child to be in a class with 23 classmates than 27. [this is example #'s]. I would prefer for my child to be in a classroom as opposed to the demountable.

People cheating the system does have an impact on the rest of the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Once your in your in, just as if you were initially out of bounds you dont have to apply every year. As far as the sibling you would do out of bounds with sibling preference.

NOT TRUE. I have seen it in writing. Your child has a right to stay no matter where you move if you originally got in through an out of boundary lottery. If you got in as an inbondary resident and then move out of boundary, all bets are off. You are officially supposed to re enter through the next out of boundary lottery if you don't want to enroll at your new inboundary school. But principals can look the other way. Best you understand the real regulation and then the convention of generally letting students stay then blunder forward buying real estate not knowing the risks.

This is a quote from the official DCPS letter, signed by the chancellor, dated February 4, 2011, sent out via DCPS offices during last year's lottery process (the quote is from the footnote included on page one). It contains very clear language that you must reapply to the current (for you now OOB) school via the OOB lottery. In an email conversation with DCPS staff, it was confirmed to me that this does indeed not apply if you had originally gotten into it via the lottery.

"If you lived in-boundary for [your school] at the time of enrollment but now live out-of-boundary, you may either enroll at your new in-boundary school or apply to stay at [your school] through the DCPS Out-of-Boundary Lottery. To find out whether you are still in-boundary for [your school], go to [URL] and enter your address. For more information on hte DCPS Out-of Boundary Lottery, go to [URL] or visit [your school] and ask the school staff to assist you."

ahhh, but those parents may decide to turn you in. it's happened. you'll have to live like you're in witness protection or something!

Anonymous wrote:If you the route of faking your address, think of how that will affect your child. Your child's friends' parents will notice that your child's playdates and birthday parties aren't at the address listed in the directory and will know that you cheated your way in. Not a great way to gain respect from your fellow parents. And, what are you teaching your children?

While I agree that it isn't fair, I wouldnt care less about what other parents think. I already have friends. Kids in elementary school dont care where their friends live and my child will always have other options for friendship/playdates outside of school. Bday parties can be scheduled at a venue. I never do bday parties or entertain at home anyway.

Anonymous wrote:Principals and chancellor legally have discretion to put whomever they want anywhere so long as an in-boundary child is not displaced. For example, former mayor Fenty's twins were in boundary for West but there was only one 4th grade class. The next closest school to their house with more than one 4th grade class, allowing each twin to be in their own class, just happened to be Lafayette. Ergo the principal and the chancellor deemed it in the best interests of these twins to attend Lafayette.

Were there other OOB twins trying to get in? Who knows. But apparently the Fenty's were able to make the case for their kids at that time.

OP, talk to your principal ASAP to determine if staying at Janney is in the best interests of YOUR children.

Good luck

A media outlet (The Washington Post, I think) did an analysis at the time and there were something like 7 schools closer to the Fenty home than Lafayette that had more than one 4th grade class. Shepherd, Brightwood, Bancroft, were among them.